Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 22:00:15 -0700
Reply-To: Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: End of the list? Was Re: Rear axle torque specs?
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There should always be a place for an old school list like this. I joined in
2000, and learned a lot after owning my '84 for fourteen years (bought it in
'86). I'm now on my second, an '85 bought in 2012 after adventures with a
'97 EVC between the two.
I think the core of veterans can keep it going, and I hope some of the Gen
Xers and younger will at least lurk. But this can be an intimidating place,
it's just easier to post a photo or five to FB and get a conversation going.
I understand that, but this is the important knowledge base with folks like
you, Dennis, Scott, David, Ken, Neil, Ben, OlRivrRat, Felder, Jeff, Mark
Drillock the beach bum, and many others, including our vendors, have built.
(Mark needs to post some photos somewhere, maybe on FB.)
It's "institutional knowledge" that cannot be replaced. And, it's all in
the archives, which are easily searchable.
"Live on Vanagon dot com!"
Stuart
-----Original Message-----
From: Alistair Bell [mailto:albell@shaw.ca]
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 7:39 PM
To: Stuart MacMillan
Cc: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Subject: End of the list? Was Re: Rear axle torque specs?
I know I was teasing you Stuart, but you've raised good points that have
been raised before and I guess really should be addressed now.
Personally, I don't like Facebook, but I understand how it works well for
many people. I like this list, the samba, and some European fora that I peek
in on.
I have a strong sentimental and yes, rational, attachment to this mailing
list and I would hate to see it end. I think I subscribed back in late 93 or
early 94, and it has been as much a part of my vanagon life as anything
else.
But I would hate to see it end up as just a few folk talking into the dark.
Alistair
> On Jun 3, 2015, at 7:24 PM, Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Alistair,
>
> Yes, no doubt. We are probably the last three members left--only
> David, you and me now. Maybe BenT to make four. Call this the "last
straw thread."
>
> Pictures? Who needs stinkin' pictures when you can read text and
> visualize complex mechanical systems and concepts!!! Or not.
>
> Keeps your brain working as you get older. I hope so anyway.
>
> Even my son with his '87 Westy won't join this group, he's on the FB.
> Just as well or I'd probably embarrass him.
>
> I wish it was Friday, I have a bit of a surprise for the mods. Stay
tuned.
>
> Stuart
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
> Behalf Of Alistair Bell
> Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 6:32 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: Rear axle torque specs?
>
> Playing with the spare set of hubs, housings, and stub axles in the
> mess I call my workshop, I notice the radial play of the hub on the
> stub axle diminishes as the hub fetches up against the ramps at the
> end of the grooves in the stub axle.
>
> I suppose I should assemble a unit minus the bearing housing and see
> if the hub comes up onto the ramps. But I can't be bothered pressing
> on, then off, the bearings.
>
> Hey Stuart, did I push more members to Facebook?
>
> :-)
>
> Alistair
>
>
>
>> On Jun 3, 2015, at 12:58 PM, David Beierl <dbeierl@ATTGLOBAL.NET> wrote:
>>
>> At 01:02 PM 6/3/2015, OlRivrRat wrote:
>>> AnyOne care to discuss just what might cause the Spacer to
>>> Wear Shorter ~
>>
>> Whatever moves against another surface will wear, evenly or with one
>> sacrificial to the other (paradixically, the harder surface tends to
>> sacrifice to the softer). I don't see the spacer as being in any
>> particular danger unless its composition is such that it moves and
>> wears preferentially to everything else in the assembly, which could
>> be. Even so, I think that the splines getting beaten up on axle and
>> hub will be the major issue, not longitudinal wear. Ideally those
>> splines would exist only as a safety backup, but whether or not that
>> applies here impact loading on them has to be kept to a minimum so
>> they don't beat each other out of shape. leading to an accelerating
>> cycle of increasing clearances leading to increased impact loads. It
>> would be simpler if they were loaded only in one direction, but they
>> have to handle decelerating and reverse-gear loads as well.
>>
>> Yours,
>> David
>
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