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Date:         Thu, 11 Jun 2015 15:23:54 -0700
Reply-To:     PB <pbrattan@GMAIL.COM>
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From:         PB <pbrattan@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: how to cool a poptop?
Comments: To: Bill Gibson <bill.bgibson@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To:  <CAG33NXG-tdkr5--o7N34PNvAhXp7UjKNT=iNkJ0quT_cru5HpQ@mail.gmail.com>
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After the windshield of another vehicle broke by itself on a very hot day, I learned my lesson, and always leave the windows of my vehicles cracked open. (It's easier for me to just leave them cracked open all the time, rather than to remember to open them when it gets hot.) I have rain deflectors on my Westy windows, so it doesn't matter if it starts to rain. Patti

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 2:29 PM, Bill Gibson <bill.bgibson@gmail.com> wrote:

> There is much less effect from light or dark paint than most people assume. > Black paint will get hotter than white paint, but the mass of the paint is > so small that it does not contribute very much to interior heating, even > though you can touch white painted surfaces more easily than black painted > surfaces. The glass creates a strong greenhouse effect, and that does raise > the inside temps when the windows are closed. Simple ventilation prevents > the greenhouse effect to a large degree, but tinting or reflective > insulation, best outside, not inside glass, is better yet. Think shade, or > space satellite style. Beep Beep. > > My stock, no air conditioning 84 Westphalia in southern Arizona has a white > top, and Twinkie yellow cream paint, doesn't have tinted glass, but leaving > windows slightly open and using interior sunshades when parked makes it > possible to touch the steering wheel, etc. this time of year (June). It > just gets dusty. > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca> wrote: > > > I can tell you from direct experience that I could not keep my hand on > the > > blue (darkish blue) pop top on my friends westy. Whereas the white pop > top > > on my van parked beside it was just warm to the touch. > > > > Alistair > > > > > > > > > On Jun 11, 2015, at 11:02 AM, PB <pbrattan@GMAIL.COM> wrote: > > > > > > The "paint guy," where I took my Westy for an estimate, seemed to think > > > that a white poptop would not make a difference during hot weather. > > Where > > > I live it can go up to 110 degrees or more, but there are usually only > > > about 20 or less of these days per year, and usually spread out in > August > > > and September. If it's 108 degrees outside, I can't see how a white > > rooftop > > > could reduce the inside temp by more than 2 or 3 degrees, which would > > still > > > result in a sizzling 105 degrees. > > > > > > I'm wondering if there's any feasible or "creative" way to install > > > Reflectix or any other type of insulation *inside* the poptop, or would > > > there happen to be some kind of "paint on" insulation for the > exterior... > > > > > > Patti > > > 90 Westy Automatic > > > North Hollywood, CA > > > > > > *♪♫**♥**♫♪♪♫**♥**♫♪♪♫**♥**♫♪♪♫**♥**♫♪* > > > If it's not on my Smart Phone, it doesn't exist... > > > ●▬▬▬▬▬▬ஜ۩۞۩ஜ▬▬♥▬▬▬ஜ۩۞۩ஜ▬▬▬▬▬● > > > > > > -- > Bill Gibson > Tempe, Arizona, USA >

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