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Date:         Sun, 21 Jun 2015 19:42:52 -0700
Reply-To:     Mark Hersh <cmwolfsburg@GMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Mark Hersh <cmwolfsburg@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Tires.. Again
Comments: To: Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com>
In-Reply-To:  <BAY405-EAS637230F88F4550FD961DB3A0A20@phx.gbl>
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Thanks, Dennis, this is very helpful. So if I got a set of four of the Nokias (for instance) I would simply inflate the rears to 42 (their max, and with a load rating above that needed as described on the GVW plate on the door jamb) with the fronts at 39 and see how it drives/handles. I don't have to follow the psi recommendations on the inflation plate on the door jamb b/c I am no longer running the original tires...

I looked and can't seem to find the complete specs for any of the Nokia tires. The eNTYRE, being a quiet tire, looks very tempting.

Thanks again,

Mark

On Sun, Jun 21, 2015 at 6:10 AM, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> wrote:

> For a number of reasons I would go with the 205/65. For real nice highway > tire consider these: > > Note that most of these choices are XL rated tires, not load range C truck > tires. The XL tires are the better choice for number of reasons. > > These are designed for extended use at higher speeds over longer times > without the heat build-up concerns inherent in commercial tires designs. > Comfort and handling is part of the design. > > They reach their full rated load capacity at 42 psi. Going above that is > for rolling resistance and handling. A benefit since the VW recommends > lower pressure in front that the rear. > > The 99 load index is adequate and is above the 97 that originally came > with the vans with the 207/70-14 tires. > > > > This is amongst my favorite! What’s on Fun Bus in a 235/55-17. > > > > > http://www.tires-easy.com/cgi-bin/rshop.pl?dsco=135&cart_id=25674052.135.26794&Cookie=pricegrabber&Breite=205&Quer=65&Felge=15&Speed=&LoadRange=&kategorie=6&Marke=&ranzahl=4&tyre_for=&x_tyre_for=&weiter=84&rsmFahrzeugart=ALL&search_tool=standard&Label=E-C-72-2&details=Ordern&typ=R-146117 > > > > A great rain-highway ultra-quiet touring tire. > > > > > http://www.tires-easy.com/cgi-bin/rshop.pl?dsco=135&cart_id=25674052.135.26794&Cookie=pricegrabber&Breite=205&Quer=65&Felge=15&Speed=&LoadRange=&kategorie=6&Marke=&ranzahl=4&tyre_for=&x_tyre_for=&rsmFahrzeugart=ALL&search_tool=standard&details=Ordern&typ=R-185709 > > > > For the off road and winter use this would be a better choice at a lower > price. > > > > > http://www.tires-easy.com/cgi-bin/rshop.pl?dsco=135&cart_id=25674052.135.26794&Cookie=pricegrabber&Breite=205&Quer=65&Felge=15&Speed=&LoadRange=&kategorie=6&Marke=&ranzahl=4&tyre_for=&x_tyre_for=&weiter=36&rsmFahrzeugart=ALL&search_tool=standard&details=Ordern&typ=R-257039 > > > > Another option: > > > > > http://www.tires-easy.com/cgi-bin/rshop.pl?dsco=135&cart_id=25674052.135.26794&Cookie=pricegrabber&Breite=205&Quer=65&Felge=15&Speed=&LoadRange=&kategorie=6&Marke=&ranzahl=4&tyre_for=&x_tyre_for=&weiter=60&rsmFahrzeugart=ALL&search_tool=standard&details=Ordern&typ=R-267164 > > > > Winter. > > > > > http://www.tires-easy.com/cgi-bin/rshop.pl?dsco=135&cart_id=25674052.135.26794&Cookie=pricegrabber&Breite=205&Quer=65&Felge=15&Speed=&LoadRange=&kategorie=6&Marke=&ranzahl=4&tyre_for=&x_tyre_for=&weiter=84&rsmFahrzeugart=ALL&search_tool=standard&details=Ordern&typ=R-242152 > > > > The truck tire/commercial option. > > > http://www.tires-easy.com/cgi-bin/rshop.pl?dsco=135&cart_id=25674052.135.26794&Cookie=pricegrabber&Breite=205&Quer=65&Felge=15&Speed=&LoadRange=&kategorie=6&Marke=&ranzahl=4&tyre_for=&x_tyre_for=&weiter=96&rsmFahrzeugart=ALL&search_tool=standard&Label=F-B-69-1&details=Ordern&typ=R-119149 > > > > Or this, > > > > > http://www.tires-easy.com/cgi-bin/rshop.pl?dsco=135&cart_id=25674052.135.26794&Cookie=pricegrabber&Breite=205&Quer=65&Felge=15&Speed=&LoadRange=&kategorie=6&Marke=&ranzahl=4&tyre_for=&x_tyre_for=&weiter=96&rsmFahrzeugart=ALL&search_tool=standard&Label=E-C-72-2&details=Ordern&typ=457321 > > > > Dennis > > > > *From:* Mark Hersh [mailto:cmwolfsburg@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Saturday, June 20, 2015 5:23 PM > *To:* Dennis Haynes > *Cc:* Vanagon listserv > *Subject:* Re: Tires.. Again > > > > These threads are always helpful to me. In 2008 I upgraded to 15" rims > and unfortunately the tire I picked are taller than we would like (Michelin > LTX M/S in 215/75). > > > > We want a highway tire (don't do much off-pavement stuff and what we do do > is pretty much better Forest Service roads). > > > > I see the Goodyear Cargo G26 in a 195/70. Or Michelin Agilis or Firestone > Transforce in 205/65. All are load range C and can take 54 to 65 psi. > > > > Thoughts? > > > > > > On Sat, Jun 20, 2015 at 9:00 AM, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> > wrote: > > There are some tires still available for the 14" rims. There are still the > skinny hard high capacity sizes such as the 185/80-14 hankooks and the > like. In 87 VW began offering the 205/70-14XL tires as a handling and > comfort upgrade. These are getting harder to find. There are still some > General Altimax tires available but they are out of production. > Tires-easy.com has some choices in this size and load rating and they are > very reasonably priced. > > If willing to go for a wheel upgrade avoid 15's unless you want to > increase diameter. Few choices with adequate capacity without going taller. > Going to 16 or 17 gets choices with needed capacity and true modern > performance options. Favorite size is 225/60-16. This is only 3/4-1" taller > and the 225 width is a substantial improvement. Normal load index is 97 0r > 98 and XL 102 is readily available. This is a very common size. For Syncros > a 215/65-16 is a tad taller and can be made to fit in the spare > compartment. There are a number of outstanding winter and all season with > winter capability tires with the XL rating available. Going to a 17;s you > can go 225/55-17 with the same advantages and even better handling although > you will feel the bumps more. American Racing offers the AR95T wheels in > both 16 and 17 direct fit for the Vanagon with a 2,200 lb. load rating. > > Dennis > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf > Of Tyler Hardison > Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 10:49 AM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Tires.. Again > > My weekender has the original 14" steel rims and the chrome VW hubcaps. > But tires seem impossible to find. > > Is there a last ditch hope to find the correct tires? Or should I remove > her original feet to upgrade and just not worry about it. > > I know, personal preference. > > Those that have upgraded, was the upgrade that noticeable in the vans > stability? > > > > > > -- > > 86 Campmobile Six-Seater "Monty" > > Black dogs are euthanized at a greater rate than other-colored dogs, > regardless of temperament. Learn about Black Dog Syndrome at > http://www.blackpearldogs.com/ Learn about black dogs in a Vanagon at > http://www.pbase.com/mhersh/image/108220533 >

-- 86 Campmobile Six-Seater "Monty"

Black dogs are euthanized at a greater rate than other-colored dogs, regardless of temperament. Learn about Black Dog Syndrome at http://www.blackpearldogs.com/ Learn about black dogs in a Vanagon at http://www.pbase.com/mhersh/image/108220533


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