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Date:         Tue, 7 Jul 2015 13:53:27 -1000
Reply-To:     "SDF ( aka ;jim lahey' - Scott )" <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         "SDF ( aka ;jim lahey' - Scott )" <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Organization: Cosmic Reminders
Subject:      Re: anybody done the brakes on 1982 gas westfalia?
Comments: To: Vincent Dow <ianvincentdow@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To:  <CAF9Ro-Y_bZ5oRC2+OHWT9om3jcOvKzjXY6TomneHeFFbGperUQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Nice to see your note. the normal way to proceed is with a complete and thorough brake inspection ... in all 4 wheels.. and in and around the master cylinder and brake booster area.

Brake fluid should be changed on most cars every 2 years ..especially Vanagons.

"just driving' it ( since no symptoms seem to be developing ) is a very bad way to take care of brakes ( and safety ).

in General ...'Fixing a Vanagon when it breaks is just an awful way to take care of it."

I've seen countless cases of where things change very slowly ( say shift linkage getting stiffer and dry ) and people are thinking about life mostly, or whatever, they don't notice the slight change .. until one day ...you know.

heck ..if Vanagons ( and most cars ) where actually *taken care of* they would last almost indefinitely. It's amazing how well Vanagons do with the non-care some of them get.

Ever check or change the transmission oil, for example ?

some old sayings .. Service and maintenance is less expensive than repair.

also this one ..( professional mechanic speaking ) ..pay my now, ( like for service ) or pay me later ..like for engine rebuild.

I hope your rear drums come off easily for inspection in there. Sometimes they're quite stuck. Have fun do good work !

On 7/7/2015 6:08 AM, Vincent Dow wrote: > Scott, > Yeah, sounds like it's more than calipers. > I intend to replace the calipers and the flexible lines. > I've been taking the brakes for granted on *Modesto* for years. There > were so many other things wrong! The brakes were like a loyal soldier. > > My buddy Nick is planning to drive down from the Bay Area and help me > get this sorted out. He's got a lot more experience than me. He also > hopes to borrow my van for awhile. > > I'm going to run down Dennis Haynes' brake diagnostic list/memo > starting tomorrow, when I get L.A. Housing dept off my back. D.H.'s > breakdown is awesome. Exactly what i needed. I didn't have a starting > point to figure this out. I went right away to the pads, as that's the > only thing I've ever had go wrong. > > You're all very helpful. It's appreciated big time. I feel like I'm in > a bit of a hole (not just with the van.) I gotta stay positive and > figure this stuff out one piece at a time. Brakes, and then shift > linkage, and then crapped out Kennedy muffler, and then CEL. Then off > to the smog shop.... > > On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 6:42 PM, SDF ( aka ;jim lahey' - Scott ) > <scottdaniel@turbovans.com <mailto:scottdaniel@turbovans.com>> wrote: > > the pistons tend to get stuck ( siezed even ) in those early > calipers... > in my experience especially the outer piston. > > just invest in 2 rebuilt front calipers. > > however...sounds like you have more than just a front brake > caliper problem. > > On 7/5/2015 2:17 PM, Vincent Dow wrote: >> Howdy, >> Had the braking power seriously diminish on my 82 westy. What a bummer, we >> were headed to San Luis Obisbo county, to bring the dog up to a beach (and >> ourselves) >> >> Had to turn back to L.A. at Thousand Oaks. >> >> The brake pedal felt tall in the morning when we started out. 50 miles into >> the drive, I felt the pedal bottoming. A couple pumps with my foot would do >> the job, but I knew I was losing pressure. >> >> I got the wheel off, and am looking at the caliper. The flexible brake line >> is attached to a bracket, that's under huge nut for the main big suspension >> piece whose name alludes me. The one that's under spring tension. >> >> I'm thinking I have to open up the brake line and drain before I can even >> get the pads out. Haven't come across a caliper like this before. Don't >> like it. >> >> I'm wondering if I shouldn't rebuild calipers now. I'm seeing lots of pics >> of nasty old ones. Brakes are important. Does this ring true to experienced >> owners? Bit the bullet and rebuild the caliper? Or is that going overboard? >> > >


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