Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2015 12:41:34 -1000
Reply-To: "SDF ( aka ;jim lahey' - Scott )" <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
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From: "SDF ( aka ;jim lahey' - Scott )" <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Organization: Cosmic Reminders
Subject: Re: Finding the PERFECT starter battery! (UPDATE!)
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sure sounds like a lot of hassle.
All I have done for YEARS is ask for a battery for an 82 Diesel Vanagon
....it's even an US model !
a 48 is what they give me.
that is a VERY 'traditional' VW Battery ..
it's not tall...
the terminals are in the right places...
it fits
they come with provision for the positive terminal cover .
plus it's more CCA's than a 41.
like what's not to like ???
gettin' overly complicated seems to me.
On 7/8/2015 7:23 AM, PB wrote:
> David,
> Thinking that I was getting an exact replacement for my discharged battery,
> I went online and looked for a group 41 battery. When I saw that it was a
> Bosch, and the photo provided actually LOOKED like my battery, except that
> there was no sticker, and the terminal cover was not there - no big deal -
> just reuse the old one...I didn't ask them anything. The store is
> basically staffed with kids. The manager, also young, is usually the only
> one who knows anything. I just showed them the description from their
> website. I didn't go through, "What is the make and model of your
> vehicle,etc., etc." I just now looked it up on their website, and after
> putting all of the requested info for batteries, it came up with this
> product <http://www.pepboys.com/product/details/9652149/00854>, which is
> not even a battery!!! I will go to my battery place and see what they have
> to say about this situation.
> Patti
>
> On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 9:49 AM, <mcneely4@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> Patti, your old battery appears identical to mine, which I bought at Pep
>> Boys 4 years ago. If it has the nipples for vent hose attachment, it IS
>> identical to mine, including the strap. Pep Boys also sells the vent hoses
>> in case a PO removed them from your compartment.
>>
>> The new battery, as you observed, does not have the cover for the positive
>> post. That is a dangerous situation, and since you observed that the lid
>> contacts the post, it is simply not an acceptable battery for your van.
>> Even with the post cover, I still cover the battery with a rubber sheet to
>> prevent contact with the metal lid. I know that folks say that there is
>> a rubber lining on the lid, but mine does not have one, just bare metal.
>> There is a foam gasket around the edge, but no rubber liner.
>>
>>
>> I am disappointed to learn this, because I thought that when I came to
>> need a new battery, I could go back to Pep Boys. Are you certain that the
>> one they provided you is the one listed for the van, or is it one that they
>> had in stock, and thought would fit? Such things happen. Does it have the
>> foot for the factory bracket? If you look at the base of your old battery,
>> it has a foot molded on the bottom that has a slot where one end of the
>> factory bracket (clamp) fits, or at least mine does. This is a very secure
>> way of holding the battery in place. Batteries without it really need to
>> be shimmed with blocks of wood or some non-conducting material so that they
>> do not move around in the compartment.
>>
>> mcneely
>>
>> ---- PB <pbrattan@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> When I opened my battery compartment, it looked like I already HAD the
>> perfect
>>> battery
>>> <
>> http://s74.photobucket.com/user/edtech2000/media/2015-07-07%2018.58.35.jpg.html
>>> !
>>> It already had a strap and a terminal cover, so I went to Pep Boys to
>> swap
>>> it out for a new one. The new battery they brought out was a group 41
>>> Bosch, but NOT THE SAME BATTERY!!! The new one was slightly taller and
>>> narrower from side to side than the old one. We did decide that
>> including
>>> the height of the strap on the old one, they were both actually the same
>>> height. However, this new one didn't have a strap or a terminal cover.
>>> Pep Boys claimed that my old battery
>>> <
>> http://s74.photobucket.com/user/edtech2000/media/2015-07-07%2018.58.35.jpg.html
>>> was discontinued and replaced with this new model
>>> <
>> http://static.pepboys.com/images/productImages/56564100/BOSCH-BATTERY-41-675B-TOP.jpg
>>> ,
>>> which ABSOLUTELY DOES NOT LOOK LIKE THIS PHOTO, so I decided to keep my
>>> core until I was sure of the fit.
>>>
>>> My husband, who was helping me with the install, fashioned a way to lower
>>> the battery into the compartment by using some ratchet straps that I
>>> already had. Once the battery was in the compartment, the bolt on the
>>> positive battery terminal connector stuck up high enough to prevent the
>>> compartment lid from closing properly. Since it was already dark when we
>>> discovered this, I decided to wait until tomorrow to check this local
>> place
>>> that specializes in batteries of all sizes and shapes
>>> <http://www.batterypower-inc.com/home.nxg>. In fact, "Battery Power"
>> has
>>> already BUILT a discontinued battery for an electric bicycle I have. I
>>> have also been able to find several motorcycle batteries of very odd
>> sizes
>>> and shapes, in stock for immediate purchase! Had I known that Pep Boys
>> did
>>> not have an EXACT replacement for my battery, I would have gone to
>> Battery
>>> Power in the first place. I am sure that one way or another I can count
>> on
>>> them to either resolve the bolt issue, or sell me a new battery that will
>>> fit as well as the old one. They may even have battery carrying straps
>> and
>>> terminal caps in stock!
>>>
>>> By the way, while my starter battery was removed from the car, I
>> discovered
>>> that my stereo, dome light, and fluorescent light all worked. I don't
>> know
>>> if that means that I already have this kind of battery relay system
>>> <
>> http://www.gowesty.com/ec_view_details.php?id=2418&category_id=&category_parent_id=
>>> installed. Tomorrow I will take a look at the aux battery to see if I
>> can
>>> figure it out. I do know that there is a 12-volt receptacle attached to
>> the
>>> aux battery, and I have used it many times.
>>>
>>> An up date will follow!
>>> Patti
>>> 90 Westy Automatic
>>> Los Angeles
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *♪♫**♥**♫♪♪♫**♥**♫♪♪♫**♥**♫♪♪♫**♥**♫♪*
>>> If it's not on my Smart Phone, it doesn't exist...
>>> ●▬▬▬▬▬▬ஜ۩۞۩ஜ▬▬♥▬▬▬ஜ۩۞۩ஜ▬▬▬▬▬●
>> --
>> David McNeely
>>
>>
>>
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