Date:         Thu, 9 Jul 2015 19:37:43 -0700
Reply-To:     Don Hanson <dhanson928@GMAIL.COM>
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From:         Don Hanson <dhanson928@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Solar for VANGONS?
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Sounds good, but if it is viable the oil companies won't stand still for
that kinda thing...We had electric vehicles that worked really well years
ago and they squashed those...kept them down for a long time until  some
bigger more powerful corporation came back with hybrids...and now full
electric cars are back again..
   We shall see how this plays out...

On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 5:40 PM, Mark Hersh <cmwolfsburg@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes, it would seem like it would take acres and acres and acres of solar
> panels to produce enough energy to produce 80 L of diesel per day from
> water and CO2.
>
> On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 4:44 PM, Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > John, John, John.  Not so fast.  The process requires hydrolysis of water
> > to provide the necessary hydrogen, a high energy demand reaction.  We are
> > talking about serious energy inputs above the energy storage in the fuel.
> > While it may be a way to produce fuel, the energy it consumes could be
> more
> > readily used directly for other applications much more profitably,
> > methinks.  mcneely
> >
> > ---- John Rodgers <jrodgers113@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> > > Recently, the Germans have developed a solar system to convert water
> and
> > > CO2 to 80 liters of diesel fuel per day. If you have a diesel van this
> > > could be a real boon. Thats approximately 20 gallons of diesel fuel per
> > > day! Given the additional mileage you get with a diesel the could be a
> > > wallet saver. You could run around a week on one days solar production,
> > > building a daily reserve of 20 gallons a day. By weeks end there would
> be
> > > enough for a serious trip and other things. Anyone looked into this?
> > >
> > > John
> >
> > --
> > David McNeely
> >
>
>
>
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