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Date:         Mon, 3 Aug 2015 22:13:02 -0600
Reply-To:     don spence <dkspence@TELUS.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         don spence <dkspence@TELUS.NET>
Subject:      Subject: Re: High pitched noise
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Is it belt noise. Drive belts can squeal when slipping and the sound varies with rpm. Usually goes away as the bely heats up and grips better.


Life isn't about how to survive the storm, but how to
dance in the rain...






On 2015-08-03, at 10:00 PM, Automatic digest processor wrote:


> There are 2 messages totalling 160 lines in this issue.
> 
> Topics of the day:
> 
>  1. High pitched noise (2)
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Date:    Mon, 3 Aug 2015 19:42:28 -0700
> From:    PB <pbrattan@GMAIL.COM>
> Subject: Re: High pitched noise
> 
> I've heard that high pitched noise upon startup, but it goes away soon
> after I start driving.  And I don't hear it every time I use my van.  Is it
> really that bad if it I don't always hear it, and when I do, the noise
> stops within 5 or 10 minutes?
> Patti
> 90 Westy Automatic
> Los Angeles
> 
> On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> As others have noted you may have a bad ring and pinion or the pinion
>> bearing. They can make noise for long time. The thought though is whether
>> or not you plan to rebuild that box. The noise is coming from the pinion
>> becoming miss aligned with the ring gear. Continued operation will damage
>> that gear set. Having to replace the R+P adds drastically to the cost of =
> an
>> overhaul.
>> 
>> Dennis
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
>> Of B Feddish
>> Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2015 9:59 AM
>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>> Subject: High pitched noise
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I=E2=80=99ve got an issue with a high pitched noise from the back.  The v=
> ibrations
>> in the noise are directly related to speed and do not change when I shift
>> from 3rd to 4th (about the speed at which I hear it).  It does go away wh=
> en
>> I press the clutch in and coast so it is only happening when I have my fo=
> ot
>> on the gas.
>> 
>> 
>> This is a new one for me, what could this be? It it the tranny getting
>> ready to go? If so, how long have I got? Is this a slow death thingy or
>> clunk clunk stranded thing? Or is there something else I should look at.
>> 
>> 
>> This is an 83.5 wc Westy BTW.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Bryan
>> 
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Date:    Mon, 3 Aug 2015 20:49:28 -0700
> From:    Don Hanson <dhanson928@GMAIL.COM>
> Subject: Re: High pitched noise
> 
>  What is meant by "adds drastically to the cost of a rebuild?"
> Like...how much more is  rebuild with a ring and pinion replacement as
> opposed to one without that?, And do they even rebuild effectively,
> without replacing those gears?
> 
>  The reason I'm asking...and an educated guess would be close enough to
> help me with a plan...is that my 84 with a 5sp manual has that whine, it's
> not alarmingly loud, but it's been growing  louder as time passes, and I've
> begun trying to avoid piling on the miles that I usually do (about 20k per
> year, mostly rural)
> Instead, I've been driving my poor man's Syncro almost every day.A.97 GM
> AWD automatic...and the two differ in fuel economy, significantly...Using
> data from the Fuelly app...My cost per mile in the Vanagon, running on
> premium fuel for my inline motor...it costs me  $0.13/mi while the Safari
> runs  on regular but at $0.16/mi...  25mpg on the vanagon and 18 on the
> safari..
> 
>   At those costs per mile, well documented (10k+ miles for each
> vehicle)...it will cost me $600 more to avoid driving my vanagon for 20k
> miles, while I try to save up for a trans rebuild....So if a ring and
> pinion replacement is around that money...I'd certainly prefer to drive the
> Vanagon again, as my toy box and fun mobile, , except in winter...and of
> course I ain't figuring in anything but gasoline...I think the Safari will
> be hard on tires...but otherwise it just goes along with no drama (so
> far..., fingers crossed)...The vanagon has been well sorted and it's not
> breaking much anymore, either,  but the whining trans...that's gonna be
> costly even without a R&P being involved...
> 
>   Anyone wanna relate any ring and pinion replacement costs from
> experience or  make a guesstimate?
> 
> On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> As others have noted you may have a bad ring and pinion or the pinion
>> bearing. They can make noise for long time. The thought though is whether
>> or not you plan to rebuild that box. The noise is coming from the pinion
>> becoming miss aligned with the ring gear. Continued operation will damage
>> that gear set. Having to replace the R+P adds drastically to the cost of =
> an
>> overhaul.
>> 
>> Dennis
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
>> Of B Feddish
>> Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2015 9:59 AM
>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>> Subject: High pitched noise
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I=E2=80=99ve got an issue with a high pitched noise from the back.  The v=
> ibrations
>> in the noise are directly related to speed and do not change when I shift
>> from 3rd to 4th (about the speed at which I hear it).  It does go away wh=
> en
>> I press the clutch in and coast so it is only happening when I have my fo=
> ot
>> on the gas.
>> 
>> 
>> This is a new one for me, what could this be? It it the tranny getting
>> ready to go? If so, how long have I got? Is this a slow death thingy or
>> clunk clunk stranded thing? Or is there something else I should look at.
>> 
>> 
>> This is an 83.5 wc Westy BTW.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Bryan
>> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> End of vanagon Digest - 3 Aug 2015 (#2015-247)
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