Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2015 15:52:10 -0400
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From: Chris Szpejankowski <szpejankowski@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: [WetWesties] The Vanagon cooling system.. it's
counterintuitive.. (long post)
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Name is just letters, not numbers? Hmm, that's tricky. Im familiar with DKW but their designs were front engine/front wheel drive in that time frame. 3 cylinder 2-stroke, some of them.
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Dnia 8 wrz 2015 o godz. 23:25 SDF ( aka ;jim lahey' - Scott ) <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM> napisał(a):
> Too bad it's not Fridae.
> There are two very good examples of small rear engine/rear radiator US
> Model Cars..
> Renault Dauphine for one ..which could not even sustain running with
> adequate cooling at 70 mph on a highway on a warm day.
>
> Another one ..great little car actually ...1959 Fiat 600D.
> kind of hokey ...fan was belt driven ...mounted on a pedastal coming off
> the side of the block ..
> sucket air through engine cover louvers and blew it forward thru a small
> radiator and out and down.
> it worked fine though.
> Belt tension adjustment was by shims, ala VW Bettle arrangment.
>
> there have been a few exotics with rear radiators and I believe Formula
> 1 cars use that arrangement.
>
> OK...triva quiz ..
> name a German car that is rear engine air-cooled, inline 4, OHC, from
> the 60's. Sideways mounted rear engine.
> a hint ..
> name is just letters.
>
> but rear radiator/s in a Vanagon ..someone build one please ..with huge
> rear side scoops !
>
> Scott
>
>> On 9/8/2015 5:10 PM, James wrote:
>> Ah yes, the argument for rear radiator(s) on a rear engined car, such as this:
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%A0koda_1000_MB
>>
>> James
>> Ottawa, ON
>>
>>
>>> Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2015 19:09:29 -1000
>>> From: scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM
>>> Subject: Re: [WetWesties] The Vanagon cooling system.. it's counterintuitive.. (long post)
>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>>
>>> it's a consequence of the vehicle design ..
>>> I DO appreciate that the Vanagon is the last version of the original
>>> concept ..
>>> oppossed 4 cylinder aluminum rear mounted engine ..
>>> that starts with the very very first VW Buses ...1954 or about there ..
>>> and they evolved the design through 3 basic versions ( Spitty, Bay Bus,
>>> and Vanagon ) .
>>> I like that.
>>>
>>> rear mounted radiator..or even twin rear mounted small radiators ...not
>>> practical generally .
>>> Though ...that would keep the major cooling system parts in one area..
>>> and help the weight distribution ..which oddly, on a 2WD Vanagon is
>>> about 55 % of the weight is on the front axle.
>>>
>>> and generally ...a front-mounted radiator is the most easily-successful
>>> arrangement, high air pressure there, etc.
>>>
>>> And sure ...there are scads of cooling system parts ..one of the Charms
>>> of water-cooled Vanagons let's say.
>>>> On 9/6/2015 12:17 PM, PSD wrote:
>>>> Yeah, not counter intuitive just over-complicated.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of SDF ( aka ;jim lahey' - Scott )
>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 4:01 PM
>>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>>> Subject: Re: [WetWesties] The Vanagon cooling system.. it's counterintuitive.. (long post)
>>>>
>>>> I wouldn't say it's counter-intuitive really ..
>>
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