Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2015 22:50:49 -0700
Reply-To: eve Appleton <appleton_eve@YAHOO.COM>
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From: eve Appleton <appleton_eve@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: Automatic vs Manual trans. ( Friday )
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Well thank u dave. I really needed to know that. Specially cause it came out favorably.
It's been good talkin to u. And in fairness, full disclosure. With every scrap of knuckle, my womanhood is totally attached to my westy. 😊
Be well my friend. Salud to ur precious wife. Til next time,
eve
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From:"Dave Mcneely" <mcneely4@COX.NET>
Date:Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 8:49 PM
Subject:Re: Automatic vs Manual trans. ( Friday )
---- eve Appleton <appleton_eve@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>Still, what about my question? I've a 1.9. If we took an equivalent auto trans engine in age, power (n leaks), n ran them side by side, how much savings in gas would there actually be? Would it be about as much as driving 10 miles to save 50 cents on a can >of beans? I need to know.
Well, depending on your driving style, you would come out ahead with the manual transmission. It is only late model automatics that beat their manual cousins. For our beasts, it is the other way around. At 14 mpg for the auto, vs 18 for the manual (figures that have been reported on this list at times), and at $2.50 per gallon, you would save about $40 over 1000 miles. Whether that matters to you is up to you. It matters to me.
In joy my man,
eve
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From:"mcneely4@cox.net" <mcneely4@cox.net>
Date:Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 5:06 PM
Subject:Re: Automatic vs Manual trans. ( Friday )
---- eve Appleton <appleton_eve@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
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i never touched an auto transmission until the age of 35 when i came to America. It's my personal opinion, learning to drive stick >should be manditory to getting a license. (That n parallel parking.) Auto is just too easy and convenience corrupts the mind.
Though I agree with you, concerning both the stick shift and the parallel parking, since both are going the way of the dodo, our opinions aren't worth much.
>Taught to drive by fighter pilots n precision race car drivers, as hyperdriving prius' wizcock thru rush hour traffic, lane changing with just inches to spare; proving displaced sense of self importance and questionable understanding of the Prius purpose (to wit, both slam to a snail's pace two car links ahead), i think of my teachers' words, "U won't find a race car driver speeding in traffic. We >leave that to the race track."
I'm not sure what this is all about. Hypermiling has nothing to do with the racing in traffic behavior of juveniles and idiots, and you'll note that I explicitly stated that I do it only in low traffic situations on open highways. One simply speeds up going downhill (traffic and other conditions allowing) and lets the vehicle slow as it climbs to avoid dropping gear and raising rpms. I will admit that if I think I can safely do so and no patrolmen are evident, I might slip over the speed limit when doing so, but my usual open highway driving is at 60 mph when not hypermiling, and when doing so, it doesn't usually get a bunch over that.
>Manual driving for the truly initiated is better then sex. (And often lasts longer.)
Well, to each his (or her) own, or as some oldies say, "Whatever floats your boat." For me, driving is a means to an end (to get where I'm going). I just try to do so safely and efficiently.
>Purpose aside, I'm so sorry to hear u've been forced to surrender ur manhood to the world of automaton, though commendable retrieval is attempted thru exercises of auto manipulation futility. We learn from everything so all is not lost. Still, u haven't >convinced me. Here's to many happy returns.
My manhood is fully intact and resides in my person, not my automobile.
Thanks, mcneely
>In joy,
>eve
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From:"Dave Mcneely" <mcneely4@COX.NET>
Date:Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 9:47 AM
Subject:Re: Automatic vs Manual trans. ( Friday )
The only two automatic transmissions I've had extensive experience with are:
1. The 1965 Ford Falcon my wife had when we married. I hated it, having been used to manual transmissions. It jerked and lurched when it changed gears, and would not downshift on a hill without stomping on the accelerator, then I would have to back off, resulting in the vehicle lurching forwarding then seeming to bog down again as it inappropriately upshifted. I never learned to get it to shift smoothly and maintain speed in that circumstance.
2. My current Toyota Prius, with continuously variable transmission and dual electric/internal combustion power. It is extremely smooth, but of course is no "performance" vehicle. The only problem with the transmission I have experienced is that the constant speed device caused it to downshift on hills to a very low gear ratio. That also caused over consumption of fuel. Once I learned to drive without that, I found I could maintain speed on hills without it, and without the transmission downshifting so far. I started getting much better highway gas mileage then. Of course, sometimes I "hypermile" with the Prius, if I am alone and there is little traffic. I don't do it with my wife in the car because it annoys her. I can get 65 mpg highway if I can hypermile for most of a 250 mile trip. That is measured by miles driven and fuel used, not the digital readout on the dash.
David McNeely
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