Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2015 23:02:57 -0400
Reply-To: Sudhir Desai <sudhir.desai@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Sudhir Desai <sudhir.desai@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: VW gets busted (NVC)
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I wouldn't mind the new Passat engine.
On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 10:59 PM, Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@cox.net> wrote:
> Hmmm .... . They may have a bigger problem than you or most realize. They sold the vehicles with an implied guarantee of
> 1) meeting emissions standards, 2) meeting a "performance" standard that they advertised and promoted buyers to expect,
> 3) maintaining a fuel economy level that they advertised, and 4) standing up to use over time without an excess level of maintenance. If the only way that they meet the emissions standard (required by law) is to bail on one or more of the other three, they may be buying back all those vehicles or putting new engines that they don't have in them. mcneely
>
> ---- Jason <uberhare@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>> Here's my take.
>>
>> These cars have been getting better than EPA published mileage. If you
>> turn the emissions systems on full time (assuming they are not....) your
>> mileage will suffer. The EGR will be more active, the DPF will have to
>> regen more often (burning more fuel so it doesn't plug up....), and all of
>> the emission related components will plug up/fail sooner. I am all for
>> less polluting vehicles, but I think the extra emissions these vehicles are
>> potentially pumping out is nothing compared to the coal fired power
>> stations in 3rd world countries or ocean liners circumventing the earth. VW
>> must have had issues making mileage and meeting emissions if they really
>> did what was alleged. Europe has less strict NoX requirements I believe,
>> making it tougher for VW to meet fleet requirements in North America with
>> these engines. 2016 TDI's are currently being held at the port....Guess
>> now we know why!
>>
>> I'll just shut up now and go fill my airplane with leaded avgas and fly it
>> over the EPA office. :)
>>
>> Jason
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 9:45 PM, Mike Miller <mwmiller6@att.net> wrote:
>>
>> > I know a lot of us have the vehicles in question.
>> >
>> > Question to owners: Are you planning to go in for the recall?
>> >
>> >
>> > --------------------------------------------
>> > On Fri, 9/18/15, Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>> >
>> > Subject: VW gets busted (NVC)
>> > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>> > Date: Friday, September 18, 2015, 6:37 PM
>> >
>> > Wow, what were they thinking? I
>> > wonder how many owners will go in for the recall
>> > though: http://nyti.ms/1MvDn0V
>> >
>
> --
> David McNeely
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