Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2015 22:22:31 -0700
Reply-To: Roger Whittaker <rogerwhitt1@GMAIL.COM>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Roger Whittaker <rogerwhitt1@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: VW gets busted (NVC)
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Dear Vanagonitered
It is my opinion this whole thing is politically motivated - either VW was
going to locate in Virginia or some other state and the deal went awry or
they decided to pull out of virginia or some other state and a disgruntled
some one or other got his buddy to fund the research and off to the races
to get a result -
Next call EPA
The chances that the largest car company in the world conspired to cheat
the EPA so they could sell vehicles in USA -
Vanagon with out a sink and stove in Canada is called a station wagon and
it actually has something to do with chickens and a poultry import export
trade war
Regards
On Friday, September 18, 2015, Jon VO <jondvo@gmail.com> wrote:
> I would be very surprised if VW is doing exactly what the EPA claims. I
> suspect there are complications in the engine management software that
> can give the impression of changes when under test. The state run
> emissions tests are pretty trivial in most states, the Colorado test is
> basically exhaust gas opacity which all the diesels I have had will pass
> easily. This issue must refer to the qualification tests that the
> vehicles go through.
> That said, I do not plan on getting the update, but bringing the car
> into the dealer for service, one may have no choice. I've got two Jetta
> TDI wagons, a 2003, and 2014. The 2014 exhaust is MUCH cleaner, albeit
> don't know about NOx. The fuel mileage on the 2003 varies from 43 to 50,
> on the 2014, 36-42, pretty much what is claimed.
> Jon
>
> On 9/18/2015 8:41 PM, Jason wrote:
>
>> Here's my take.
>>
>> These cars have been getting better than EPA published mileage. If you
>> turn the emissions systems on full time (assuming they are not....) your
>> mileage will suffer. The EGR will be more active, the DPF will have to
>> regen more often (burning more fuel so it doesn't plug up....), and all of
>> the emission related components will plug up/fail sooner. I am all for
>> less polluting vehicles, but I think the extra emissions these vehicles
>> are
>> potentially pumping out is nothing compared to the coal fired power
>> stations in 3rd world countries or ocean liners circumventing the earth.
>> VW
>> must have had issues making mileage and meeting emissions if they really
>> did what was alleged. Europe has less strict NoX requirements I believe,
>> making it tougher for VW to meet fleet requirements in North America with
>> these engines. 2016 TDI's are currently being held at the port....Guess
>> now we know why!
>>
>> I'll just shut up now and go fill my airplane with leaded avgas and fly it
>> over the EPA office. :)
>>
>> Jason
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 9:45 PM, Mike Miller <mwmiller6@att.net> wrote:
>>
>> I know a lot of us have the vehicles in question.
>>>
>>> Question to owners: Are you planning to go in for the recall?
>>>
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------
>>> On Fri, 9/18/15, Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>>
>>> Subject: VW gets busted (NVC)
>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>> Date: Friday, September 18, 2015, 6:37 PM
>>>
>>> Wow, what were they thinking? I
>>> wonder how many owners will go in for the recall
>>> though: http://nyti.ms/1MvDn0V
>>>
>>>
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