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Date:         Sat, 19 Sep 2015 10:51:20 -0500
Reply-To:     Tom Hargrave <thargrav@HIWAAY.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Tom Hargrave <thargrav@HIWAAY.NET>
Subject:      Re: VW gets busted (NVC)
Comments: To: KIM BRENNAN <kimbrennan@MAC.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <4085E79E-65F8-45CD-8A05-B277DB419373@mac.com>
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More likely than not the computer runs in open loop mode when accelerating, under a lot of power, etc. By open loop, I mean that it follows a pre-programmed Fuel Injection map when the computer can't keep up with all the fast changes going on under the hood.

All of the fuel injection systems did this in from the 80's through at least sometime in the 90's, maybe even later. The problem was the systems weren’t powerful enough to process all the inputs all the time, so they defaulted to processing only when they could. Most only ran in full control only at idle and at steady road speeds. The pre-programmed injection map was close enough to take care of the rest.

If the car manufacturers are still doing this today then VW may not be doing anything wrong, and there may not be anything to "fix".

Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com www.stir-plate.com www.towercooler.com www.grow-sun.com www.raspberryproject.com http://goo.gl/niRzVw

-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM] On Behalf Of KIM BRENNAN Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2015 10:06 AM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Re: VW gets busted (NVC)

Actually the news articles I’ve seen on this VW ADMITS to doing this.

> On Sep 19, 2015, at 10:29 AM, Jeff Palmer <jpalmer@MYMTS.NET> wrote: > > Sorry but I'll give the EPA the benefit of the doubt over VW here :) > > Jeff > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 19, 2015, at 12:22 AM, Roger Whittaker <rogerwhitt1@GMAIL.COM> wrote: >> >> Dear Vanagonitered >> >> It is my opinion this whole thing is politically motivated - either >> VW was going to locate in Virginia or some other state and the deal >> went awry or they decided to pull out of virginia or some other state

>> and a disgruntled some one or other got his buddy to fund the >> research and off to the races to get a result - Next call EPA The >> chances that the largest car company in the world conspired to cheat >> the EPA so they could sell vehicles in USA - Vanagon with out a sink >> and stove in Canada is called a station wagon and it actually has >> something to do with chickens and a poultry import export trade war >> Regards

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