http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/how-emissions-tests-that-exposed-vw-scandal-were-done-1.3243461
with loads of links to other aspects of the story as they see it
this issue is not over yet - and it would be my bet that there is a lot
more here than meets the eye
as the hatred for anything with fossil fuels continues to gain momentum and
the delight for anything electric gains popularity -
Long live the Regan-mobile -- isn't that a thing? From the happy times of
never weren't.
regards
On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 11:37 AM, Raimund Feussner <ray@v6bus.de> wrote:
> And the results are not in yet?
>
> I doubt it is VW´s crappy engineering that fails emissions tests. All
> other OEMs certainly fail,too:
> BMW X3. It has no cheat software, but on the road it still blows more
> crap into the air than on the emissions´ test roll.
>
> In Germany it is quite easy:
> The emissions test pretends a nice city drive, and a highway road
> afterwards.
> The top speed of the highway test cycle is 120km/h (about 70-75 mph ?).
>
> In "real" life, if in Germany the top highway speed is not limited, you
> can go as fast as you want.
> At 120mph, a 200+ hp X3 will definitely not meet its emissions that it´s
> supposed to meet at the test´s max of 70mph.
>
> So the news: X3 is eleven (!) times over the limit. So is any other
> model that goes beyond 120km/h, I bet.
> Is that illegal? I don´t know because the vehicle didn´t fail the test.
>
> VW used an intelligent software, that is probably illegal.
>
> Also, most Diesels use the Bosch EDC engine management. If this allows
> the cheat code, why would any other manufacturer not take advantage of it?!
> That´s why I think, sooner or later all the Bosch-driven cars will fail.
>
> Regards
> Raimund
>
>
>
>
>
> Am 25.09.2015 um 20:01 schrieb Jeff Palmer:
>
>> They probably are.
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 12:32 PM, Jon VO <jondvo@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>>
>>> OK then, ALL of the tested vehicles in the WV emissions test 18mo ago
>>> failed on NoX emissions. Only VW admits to having "cheated". Based on
>>> these results, why are not the other vehicle manufacturers being
>>> investigated?
>>> JonVO
>>>
>>> On 9/25/2015 11:14 AM, Karl Ploessl wrote:
>>>> so we know that VW "cheated". But how was it done?
>>>>
>>>> CEO says to his underling: go and get the the diesel engine certified.
>>>> Underling goes to his/her underling and tells them get it done. And so
>>>> on.
>>>> Diesel engineer knows that it can't be done and orders the programmers
>>>> to
>>>> put in cheat code. So there must be lots of people involved who "knew",
>>>> at
>>>> least programmers, engineer? Everybody is quiet, doesn't go home and
>>>> tells
>>>> SO about the work? SO doesn't chat with neighbors....
>>>> Difficult to imagine that everybody kept a quiet lip... but has to be
>>>> like
>>>> that?
>>>>
>>>> What other scenarios are possible?
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 12:13 PM, Richard Smith <richard_smith@gnwc.ca>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Small to medium sized enterprises.
>>>>> --
>>>>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 7:16 AM, Sudhir Desai <sudhir.desai@GMAIL.COM
>>>>> <mailto:
>>>>> sudhir.desai@GMAIL.COM>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> SME being ? (sorry, the only SME I know is a Subject Matter Expert)
>>>>>
>>>>>
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