Date:         Mon, 28 Sep 2015 15:09:34 -0400
Reply-To:     george jannini <georgejoann@GMAIL.COM>
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From:         george jannini <georgejoann@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: NVC Re: VW, honour, and culture
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   Some of you may feel as if VW is getting the shaft, (leave me out) but
there are a whole lot more owners of 2009-2015 diesels who know that they
certainly have, and they care, and count, as consumers, a lot more than you
do.

Geo/ATL
'89 Westy ABA
'67 Kombi, 1600DP



On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 2:57 PM, Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@gmail.com>
wrote:

> It's not a "mistake," that's the issue. This is the largest "corporate
> fraud with criminal intent" ever committed, according to the Financial
> Times, which has a good piece comparing this to Enron.  It's behind a
> paywall, but you should be able to get to it by Googling  "Seven reasons
> Volkswagen is worse than Enron" and clicking on the link that comes up.
> It's worth reading.
>
> There is a special relationship between local governments in Germany and
> VW because they own special stock that gives them control over the company,
> and VW's relationship with governments is extraordinary.  Business Week has
> a good article on this (free):
> http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-09-24/did-privilege-enable-volkswagen-s-diesel-deception-
>
> With all the lawsuits and potential buy-backs this could bring down the
> company.
>
> Stuart
> -----Original Message-----
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> Of Dan N
> Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 11:10 AM
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> Subject: Re: NVC Re: VW, honour, and culture
>
> according to what I read so far... all car manufacturers cheat one way or
> another - it happened in the past and going on now - they will find more...
>
> the only thing I don't understand is why VW mistake is a BIG issue now..
>
> looks like they dig in a trash bin and pull out a BIG piece of trash.. but
> trash is trash big or small...  it's still trash... right?
>