Date:         Mon, 28 Sep 2015 15:35:49 -0700
Reply-To:     Roger Whittaker <rogerwhitt1@GMAIL.COM>
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From:         Roger Whittaker <rogerwhitt1@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: NVC Re: VW, honour, and culture
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On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 3:28 PM, Jeff Palmer <jpalmer@mymts.net> wrote:

> Agreed.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Sep 28, 2015, at 2:09 PM, george jannini <georgejoann@GMAIL.COM>
> wrote:
> >
> >   Some of you may feel as if VW is getting the shaft, (leave me out) but
> > there are a whole lot more owners of 2009-2015 diesels who know that they
> > certainly have, and they care, and count, as consumers, a lot more than
> you
> > do.
> >
> > Geo/ATL
> > '89 Westy ABA
> > '67 Kombi, 1600DP
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 2:57 PM, Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> It's not a "mistake," that's the issue. This is the largest "corporate
> >> fraud with criminal intent" ever committed, according to the Financial
> >> Times, which has a good piece comparing this to Enron.  It's behind a
> >> paywall, but you should be able to get to it by Googling  "Seven reasons
> >> Volkswagen is worse than Enron" and clicking on the link that comes up.
> >> It's worth reading.
> >>
> >> There is a special relationship between local governments in Germany and
> >> VW because they own special stock that gives them control over the
> company,
> >> and VW's relationship with governments is extraordinary.  Business Week
> has
> >> a good article on this (free):
> >>
> http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-09-24/did-privilege-enable-volkswagen-s-diesel-deception-
> >>
> >> With all the lawsuits and potential buy-backs this could bring down the
> >> company.
> >>
> >> Stuart
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
> >> Of Dan N
> >> Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 11:10 AM
> >> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> >> Subject: Re: NVC Re: VW, honour, and culture
> >>
> >> according to what I read so far... all car manufacturers cheat one way
> or
> >> another - it happened in the past and going on now - they will find
> more...
> >>
> >> the only thing I don't understand is why VW mistake is a BIG issue now..
> >>
> >> looks like they dig in a trash bin and pull out a BIG piece of trash..
> but
> >> trash is trash big or small...  it's still trash... right?
> >>
>



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