Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 12:38:09 -0700
Reply-To: Jeff Schwaia <vw.doka@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Jeff Schwaia <vw.doka@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: NVC Re: VW, honour, and culture
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New car dealers don't really "own" their vehicles. They can be returned.
As always... only the lawyers will come out ahead...
Cheers,
Jeff
-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
Stuart MacMillan
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 12:31 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: NVC Re: VW, honour, and culture
It could be worse, you could be a US VW dealer and own hundreds of thousands
of dollars' worth of unsaleable vehicles. And, have no new diesels to sell.
Yesterday I was at my local VW dealer (they still have some Vanagon parts!)
and there was a woman in for servicing her Passat TDI, which she loved, but
was angry that she paid a $2000 premium over gas, figuring her mileage and
performance were going to go down after the fix that's coming. I don't
blame her, and I wonder if she'll want the car at all with lower performance
and mileage after the fix that's coming.
The class action suits are forming.
Stuart
-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
Jeff Schwaia
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 12:00 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: NVC Re: VW, honour, and culture
I'm pretty sure a VW buy-back program will be coming along real soon...
Cheers,
Jeff
-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
Jack Botts
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 5:58 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: NVC Re: VW, honour, and culture
Here's how it affects Joe-VW-owner. I bought a used 2014 Passat TDI SE about
4 months ago. I sold a LOVED 2005 Jetta TDI Wagon (so, before the current VW
diesel shenanigans). If I needed to sell this Passat for, who knows why --
illness, stock losses,
I'm-not-sure-I-am-excited-about-automatic-for-the-first-time-since-1965 --
where does this leave ME? No one will buy it, VW won't buy it, I can't trade
it. Between my son and me, we have owned about 14 Volkswagens. I have
friends who are VW enthusiasts. We thought that there was something more
than regular car ownership associated with VW ownership. What we thought was
a different car company turns out to be just another greedy, short-sighted,
dishonest modern huge business. If the (3rd '86 Weekender) Vanagon didn't
meet our needs so perfectly, I would sell it tomorrow and skedaddle from
vanagon.com and anything VW-related.
Jack Botts
Columbia, MO
'86 Vanagon Westfalia Weekender
'14 Passat SE TDI
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