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Date:         Fri, 2 Oct 2015 09:34:50 -0500
Reply-To:     Abel Longoria <houstonphotog@GMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Abel Longoria <houstonphotog@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Kickstarter: Pan American trip by two guys from Calfornia.
Comments: To: "SDF ( Scott Daniel Foss )" <scottdaniel@turbovans.com>
In-Reply-To:  <CACrM94KiRH=37vT+KABnM7JMCnapOt4i7zdg_OcrAdOS6KaTmA@mail.gmail.com>
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Looks like they met their goal! Congrats Miles and Aaron. Exciting times!

Abel. On Oct 1, 2015 8:24 PM, "Abel Longoria" <houstonphotog@gmail.com> wrote:

> People can give if they like or not... > > I wish I was in the position to travel to South America in my van but I'm > not. So I like to see others that can do it for me! > > I donated and it's not a charity. I'm purchasing a DVD, a book and shirt. > That's how I see it. It's not like you give and get nothing in return. My > purchase is helping them make the trek I can't... I'll be living > vicariously though their man instagram posts as if I'm along for the ride. > > If you don't want to help, you don't have to. > > Abel. > On Oct 1, 2015 8:18 PM, "SDF ( aka ;jim lahey' - Scott )" < > scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote: > >> I have learned, 'the hard way' that, generally 'Charity is not >> Empowering' . >> So I don't do it much .. >> since it doesn't seem to really energize and empower people.. >> rather, they tend to expect handouts, like that's the normal way now. >> >> whole other subject of course, so wont' say much .. >> I would say that 'younger people' tend to expect charity .. >> I alxo think they gov offers way too much to way too many people ..thus >> enslaving people to being semi-dysfunctional. >> They encourage it even. >> ( I know people on SSI that are no more depressed, or bipolar, or >> physically in pain than I am. ) >> Too political I know. >> >> Doesn't bother me that these guys are seeking crowdfunding...it's the >> modern way. >> I'm not particularity motivated to help pay for their project . >> and so far, i don't get that it's particularly any different than >> thousands of other long van trips, even documented ones. >> Like what's new and different about this journey really ? >> >> but hey ..they are free to Ask all they want ! >> >> On 10/1/2015 2:46 PM, Dan N wrote: >> >>> Ben T... >>> >>> take it easy... generosity is wonderful trait.. I give often to charities >>> and homeless people... >>> >>> I am sure most of you guys on this forum do that too... >>> >>> the thing is we don't get used to being ask edfor $$ without good >>> cause... >>> >>> here are 2 examples... >>> >>> - asking funds for a trip... for recording gears and other post >>> processing >>> fees >>> >>> - my son get hit by a drunk driver 2 weeks ago.. he's OK, no injuries... >>> now he need a car to go to work... I am rushing to fix my '85 tintop so I >>> can give it to him... I don't ask or go to the internet asking for fun... >>> >>> which one has a good cause? >>> >>> thanks >>> >>>


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