Date:         Fri, 2 Oct 2015 09:04:02 -0700
Reply-To:     Roger Whittaker <rogerwhitt1@GMAIL.COM>
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From:         Roger Whittaker <rogerwhitt1@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: NVC Re: VW gave diesel drivers what they wanted!
Comments: To: James <jk_eaton@hotmail.com>
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I have a buddy who not only believes this argument - he goes further to
state that good for VW to have figured it out -
I am of a mind to support that idea as well - not the illegal part but the
part that says that the rest of North America should not be held hostage to
California standards of compliance -
Which make no sense in the real world where you need power to get up a hill
and breaking energy to stop going down
Regards
On Thursday, October 1, 2015, James <jk_eaton@hotmail.com> wrote:

> The opposite argument to this is that they did it for the faithful VW
> loving diesel owner.
> Let me explain this alternate argument.
>
> If you have a VW diesel, you probably value its fuel economy and power
> most - not many people outside of the LA and Frankfurt 'smog basins' or the
> EPA care that much about NOx.  By running with this 'trick' software, VW
> gave owners the best of both worlds - a car that will pass emissions tests
> as required by governments, AND a car that gets fabulous fuel economy and
> great power in real-world driving.
>
> I know very few VW diesel owners who boast about their car's low pollution
> numbers.  I know a lot of VW diesel owners who boast about their car's
> power and exceptional fuel economy - about how they get even better fuel
> mileage than the EPA/Transport Canada estimates.
>
> In that sense, VW was just giving its faithful diesel owners EXACTLY what
> they wanted.
>
> Pity that what VW diesel drivers wanted was technically impossible, and
> the VW solution to give it to them was thus illegal.
>
>
> James
> Ottawa, ON
>
> > Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 13:31:43 -1000
> > From: scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM <javascript:;>
> > Subject: Re: NVC Re: VW, honour, and culture
> > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM <javascript:;>
> >
> > it's a big deal because....
> >
>
> >
> > 3. IT WAS INTENTIONAL DECEPTION.
> >    they tricked everyone ..apparently intentionally ...the faithful
> > VW-loving owner...
> >
>
>



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