Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2015 17:49:32 -0700
Reply-To: Roger Whittaker <rogerwhitt1@GMAIL.COM>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Roger Whittaker <rogerwhitt1@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: slightly prior to friday with apology to mod - Re: NVC Re: VW
gave diesel drivers what they wanted!
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dear vanagoniterites
i followed that portland paper waster and left them an environmentally
friendly message on biodegradable paper, written in ink certified to be
iron and carbon free & sourced from organic plants which was pasted to
their door with certified organic biodegradable glue.
The note said - in 7.5pt calligraphy font
Dear Angry Person
I agree with you - we are killing our precious planet with all we do -
we must with haste return to the days of beeswax candles and pottery
crockery
we must clean ourselves with lye soap made in organic shops -
hemp and wool shirts for all with only the food you can grow in your
allotment deemed as that which you can eat.
please join me in the commons tomorrow at the hour of the rise of the moon
where we shall collectively place our 32 gb iphone 6sc into the great
crusher -
place our rubber tired, carbon fibre bicycles into the crusher and we shall
together damn the coal industry used to create such in-human things as
carbon fibre and aluminum and the mother of all horrible inventions steel
and and dare we even mention the poison of refined gold -
Together we shall place our vehicles in the crusher where they will
demolished and returned to the earth -
we shall return to caves and grass houses to save the forests and as for
myself --
my kin folk are building a cedar canoe - once we have found a suitable log
dead and down in the forest - which we will fashion by hand scratching out
the centre with a sharp rock we have found -
in said canoe we shall venture onto the waves - without the safe benefit of
a militaristic armed and aggressive coast guard, radios or radar - and
there upon the waves we shall commence to hunt whales which we shall render
for their oil so we may light and heat our coastal cave dwelling -
my sister who likes the warmth is headed to the southern climates where she
shall after walking to her destination - claim a place in the palm oil
society -
my brother who is also less sea going shall head to the prairie where he
believes the capture of peat and dung for purposes of heating and cooking
shall be so much easier than whaling - good luck to him i say
Righteous Anger such as you have shown me today shall not be a part of our
society as we are going to have no corporations or greed and everyone shall
profit from the efforts of everyone else - i know someone else will do my
part while i am whaling - --- -- --- your co warrior and shepherd of
...WHAT's RIGHT.
So anyway just as i was walking back to my Gru vehicle {
http://despicableme.wikia.com/wiki/Grumobile } to go to StarCities Best for
a 12 $ coffee i got a Twitterbook up date from the Angry Person who claimed
indignation and further anger at my support for their cause -
ya just can't win -
On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 3:10 PM, SDF ( aka ;jim lahey' - Scott ) <
scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:
> You could work for VW since you are so skilled at Justifying illegality !
> "We're just giving them what they want ! ' ..and hey ...if we have
> to trick the regulators a little to do that ...that's ok.
>
> That would be an interesting poll :
> what portion of VW diesel owners bought their car largely because they
> are suppossidly 'clean' and not environmentally so harmful ?
>
> or ...of the 3 biggies .....fuel economy, power/driveability and
> environmental correctness..
> what wight would they give to each category ?
>
> I suspect that joe average consumer is concerned first with their own
> personal benefit, and less so about the larger environmental picture.
> < lol...and that is what is taught subtly and pervasively throughout
> Consumerism ..it's all about what you can get for yourself. >
>
> In Portland OR, just on the tv news the other night ..
> a diesel car owner found a note on his windshield in the morning
> ...blasting him for driving a polluting car.
> This is 'So Portland' was the guy's reaction.
> Scott
>
> On 10/1/2015 9:29 AM, James wrote:
>
>> The opposite argument to this is that they did it for the faithful VW
>> loving diesel owner.
>> Let me explain this alternate argument.
>>
>> If you have a VW diesel, you probably value its fuel economy and power
>> most - not many people outside of the LA and Frankfurt 'smog basins' or the
>> EPA care that much about NOx. By running with this 'trick' software, VW
>> gave owners the best of both worlds - a car that will pass emissions tests
>> as required by governments, AND a car that gets fabulous fuel economy and
>> great power in real-world driving.
>>
>> I know very few VW diesel owners who boast about their car's low
>> pollution numbers. I know a lot of VW diesel owners who boast about their
>> car's power and exceptional fuel economy - about how they get even better
>> fuel mileage than the EPA/Transport Canada estimates.
>>
>> In that sense, VW was just giving its faithful diesel owners EXACTLY what
>> they wanted.
>>
>> Pity that what VW diesel drivers wanted was technically impossible, and
>> the VW solution to give it to them was thus illegal.
>>
>>
>> James
>> Ottawa, ON
>>
>> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 13:31:43 -1000
>>> From: scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM
>>> Subject: Re: NVC Re: VW, honour, and culture
>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>>
>>> it's a big deal because....
>>>
>>> 3. IT WAS INTENTIONAL DECEPTION.
>>> they tricked everyone ..apparently intentionally ...the faithful
>>> VW-loving owner...
>>>
>>>
>>
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