Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2015 20:24:39 -0500
Reply-To: Abel Longoria <houstonphotog@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Abel Longoria <houstonphotog@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Kickstarter: Pan American trip by two guys from Calfornia.
In-Reply-To: <560DDB55.808@turbovans.com>
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People can give if they like or not...
I wish I was in the position to travel to South America in my van but I'm
not. So I like to see others that can do it for me!
I donated and it's not a charity. I'm purchasing a DVD, a book and shirt.
That's how I see it. It's not like you give and get nothing in return. My
purchase is helping them make the trek I can't... I'll be living
vicariously though their man instagram posts as if I'm along for the ride.
If you don't want to help, you don't have to.
Abel.
On Oct 1, 2015 8:18 PM, "SDF ( aka ;jim lahey' - Scott )" <
scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:
> I have learned, 'the hard way' that, generally 'Charity is not Empowering'
> .
> So I don't do it much ..
> since it doesn't seem to really energize and empower people..
> rather, they tend to expect handouts, like that's the normal way now.
>
> whole other subject of course, so wont' say much ..
> I would say that 'younger people' tend to expect charity ..
> I alxo think they gov offers way too much to way too many people ..thus
> enslaving people to being semi-dysfunctional.
> They encourage it even.
> ( I know people on SSI that are no more depressed, or bipolar, or
> physically in pain than I am. )
> Too political I know.
>
> Doesn't bother me that these guys are seeking crowdfunding...it's the
> modern way.
> I'm not particularity motivated to help pay for their project .
> and so far, i don't get that it's particularly any different than
> thousands of other long van trips, even documented ones.
> Like what's new and different about this journey really ?
>
> but hey ..they are free to Ask all they want !
>
> On 10/1/2015 2:46 PM, Dan N wrote:
>
>> Ben T...
>>
>> take it easy... generosity is wonderful trait.. I give often to charities
>> and homeless people...
>>
>> I am sure most of you guys on this forum do that too...
>>
>> the thing is we don't get used to being ask edfor $$ without good cause...
>>
>> here are 2 examples...
>>
>> - asking funds for a trip... for recording gears and other post processing
>> fees
>>
>> - my son get hit by a drunk driver 2 weeks ago.. he's OK, no injuries...
>> now he need a car to go to work... I am rushing to fix my '85 tintop so I
>> can give it to him... I don't ask or go to the internet asking for fun...
>>
>> which one has a good cause?
>>
>> thanks
>>
>>
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