Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2015 18:00:45 -0700
Reply-To: Aristotle Sagan <killer.jupiter@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Aristotle Sagan <killer.jupiter@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: 10/07 TIPS for Passing CA test-only smog? An 1981 air-cooled
Vanagon camper
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I love all the righteous who don't have an aircooled 1980 camper in
California. It has to pass standards that didn't exist when it was made.
Main problem is the square breather device that is no longer made and rusts
out like crazy. Best adivce is to get it hot,, make sure it is in tune,
clean standard plugs (none of those 4 prong wonder plugs from Bosch), clean
oil, and a vw mechanic who understands the dance between Nox and CO
emissions with the tuning. Make sure the spark plug wires are NOT parallel.
Give money to a good cause to get your Karma bank in good standing.
tim in san jose
On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 11:49 AM, James <jk_eaton@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Actually, that's what Ontario's latest smog test amounts to - a fine if
> your Check Engine light is on. It's not what they do - the test calls for
> an evaluation device to be plugged into the OBDII connector, on vehicles so
> equipped, and they read the condition of the pollution controls from that -
> but if your Check Engine light is on, they will not do the test until
> you've had the vehicle fixed enough to turn off the Check Engine light.
> Such repairs may or may not be cheap.
>
> Our Westy, of course, is old enough that it still needs the tail-pipe
> sniffer - if it were an '88, it would be exempt.
>
> James
> Ottawa, ON
>
> > Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2015 22:37:00 -0500
> > From: thargrav@HIWAAY.NET
> > Subject: Re: 10/07 TIPS for Passing CA test-only smog? An 1981
> air-cooled Vanagon camper
> > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> >
> > I agree that we all need breathable air and I also agree that these
> tests were valuable through about the early 90's. But now cars are smart
> enough to tell you they have a problem, and the older stuff is rare enough
> and driven little enough to not contribute much to the problem.
> >
> > I believe that today's smog tests are mostly just an income source to
> the states that require them!
> >
> > So, instead of wasting everyone's money on smog tests I believe these
> states should pass tough laws punishing owners who drive cars with the
> check engine light on. Get caught once and you get a warning ticket and a
> mandatory follow-up appointment. Get caught a second time within a
> reasonable time frame and you pay a hefty fine.
> >
> > Thanks, Tom Hargrave
> > www.kegkits.com
> > www.stir-plate.com
> > www.towercooler.com
> > www.grow-sun.com
> > www.raspberryproject.com
> > http://goo.gl/niRzVw
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mcneely4@cox.net [mailto:mcneely4@cox.net]
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2015 10:10 PM
> > To: Tom Hargrave <thargrav@hiwaay.net>; vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > Subject: Re: 10/07 TIPS for Passing CA test-only smog? An 1981
> air-cooled Vanagon camper
> >
> > Hmmm ......... . Whether a state has emissions inspections or not is
> not up to the state, but depends on whether the state is an air quality
> attainment zone or not. In some states, like Texas, whether a vehicle is
> tested or not depends on the county of registration. DFW Metroplex
> counties, Houston, Austin maybe a few others testing is required. Other
> counties, no. That is dictated by EPA, not the state. Want my 2 cents?
> We should require testing all over this great country. After all, we all
> have to breathe. BTW, my Volkswagen Vanagon GL Campmobile with 2.1
> waterboxer and 4 speed manual transmission (it is metallic tan, whatever VW
> called that color, Scott) passed the emissions test in Washington handily.
> And I agree with the earlier poster, if yours doesn't pass, something needs
> fixed. There are no gremlins or technicians out to getcha. mcneely
> >
> > ---- Tom Hargrave <thargrav@HIWAAY.NET> wrote:
> > > I read the other two responses and both are correct if you have
> > > something marginal going on. Your car should pass if everything is
> > > hooked up properly, assuming nothing that would cause an issue is worn
> > > out of spec and it's in proper tune. And if you do fail you have
> > > something to repair. This "in theory" is why the smog tests exist.
> > >
> > > Or you could move to the great state of Alabama where we don't smog
> > > test vehicles. We don't have vehicle inspections either! The state
> > > figured out a long time ago that both are a waste of resident's money
> and I agree.
> > >
> > > Thanks, Tom Hargrave
> > > www.kegkits.com
> > > www.stir-plate.com
> > > www.towercooler.com
> > > www.grow-sun.com
> > > www.raspberryproject.com
> > > http://goo.gl/niRzVw
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM] On
> > > Behalf Of Linda Merrill
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2015 4:34 PM
> > > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > > Subject: 10/07 TIPS for Passing CA test-only smog? An 1981 air-cooled
> > > Vanagon camper
> > >
> > > 10/07 TIPS for Passing CA test-only smog?
> > > 1981 air-cooled Vanagon camper
> > >
> > > Hi, California Vanagon people,
> > >
> > > Thank you for your help with this!
> > >
> > > My VW needs smogging -- which had to
> > > wait for the no-warm start solution and repair.
> > >
> > > That was complete this Monday, 10/5.
> > >
> > > Worry and avoidance continue here . . .
> > > I keep putting off going for the smog -- and now would like your best
> > > tips on How-To . . .
> > >
> > > What would you do?
> > >
> > > Use Premium fuel?
> > >
> > > Drive her how long in advance?
> > >
> > > Have her warm or cool?
> > >
> > > Anything do / don't do?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thank you, and hoping for a speedy reply : ) ,
> > >
> > > Linda
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > P.S. Before last week, she hadn't gone
> > > 15 miles in a year.
> > >
> > > I have a new air filter -- and no one
> > > to pay to look at her.
> > >
> > > The men who fixed the electrical ground
> > > are Volvo mechanics -- and left the engine
> > > area as they found it.
> > >
> > > She has just about 50,000 miles, and passed smog easily last time
> > > -- I think.
> > >
> > > (She May have been close to the upper
> > > limit on the Highest allowed number range
> > > ? )
> > >
> > >
> > > P.P.S. My regist. Ended August 2015.
> > >
> > > I paid for it in August at AAA Auto Club In August.
> > >
> > > This link says I will have to pay my regis fee again. What do you
> > > know about that?
> > >
> > > http://www.ratwell.com/technical/Smog.html
> > >
> > >
> > > Yikes, I hope I won't need to re-pay ...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Bless you and thanks so much!
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > --
> > David McNeely
> >
> >
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