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Date:         Thu, 15 Oct 2015 22:47:50 -0400
Reply-To:     Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Propane tank restore or replace
Comments: To: Neil2 <vidublu@GMAIL.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <CAGzDsVbL+ftG9jMJgvMO0bufsKxend=3SVEEqwcXL_rXPBpJmA@mail.gmail.com>
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Opening the bleed allows for faster filling as the venting reduces the pressure in the tank so the liquid can flow in and replace the vapor. With a properly working fill valve it should not be needed to open. If you don’t have the auto-stop then opening the bleeder is the only way to know when the tank is full which is indicated by liquid purging out. The problem is you can still pump liquid in faster than the vent lets it out so it is possible to overfill a tank. Now go take that overfilled tank with the cool liquid and park it in a hot area so it can warm up with limited room for expansion. This way we can test the relief valve! Also, this possibility is the main reason the 2 stage regulators are required. If liquid should make it into the first stage it can’t reduce the pressure. After the first stage lets the liquid turn to vapor the second stage can then reduce the pressure and avoid a big flame on your stove.

Dennis

-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of Neil2 Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 1:47 PM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Re: Propane tank restore or replace

Lurking on this and just filled my MT tank after a two week holiday. For the second fill up the experienced propane operator had trouble shutting the overflow port. For several minutes a cloud formed and was gratefully carried away on the wind. A driver parked in the fill zone was told by moi not to start the engine or move at all. Whew!

The op said many don't open/shut the overflow which doesn't purge the tank of 'air' taken in during use. I didn't ask how the air enters a closed vessel. Also reduces the capacity said he. Anyone have an informed op on this aspect of filling/using the tank?

I plan to tilt the guard plate downward a bit since it is not the lowest point on the rig and it interferes with the fill port and also could contribute to a spark whilst the operator is fiddling so long with the overflow port. I also plan to upgrade the overflow port to a triangular one, plastisol the guard all around and source a brass tool for opening/shutting the overflow port.

On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Mark Milby <obxmilby@gmail.com> wrote:

> Replace it! I also had one fail and the shrapnel shot into the leg of > the guy filling the tank. Nothing major but he was bleeding pretty > good, enough to say I would be hearing from his lawyer. > > MM > > On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Nick Feickert > <thesuperflydisco@gmail.com > > > wrote: > > > Ok. I've been reading a lot in the archives on options for the tank.

> > My plan was to remove all the fittings, refinish the tank with > > POR-15 and fresh white paint, replace the regulator, shut off valve,

> > and maybe the fill valve. Bleeder valve looks good as does the fill > > valve but I noticed that the rubber gasket in the inside end has a > > small gap in it. Anyway, I see the new tanks offered by GW, BD, Van > > Cafe all have the additional relief valve that the OEM tanks don't > > have. So let's get down to the > brass > > tacks (pun intended). Is the only real issue here the cost of a new tank? > > Can a refurbished LP tank be just a good and complaint and a new > > one?(or at least be grandfathered in) Do you still have issues with > > stations not wanting to fill a NEW tank? I seems to me that the OEM > > tanks work just fine as long as all the components are in good > > working order....so let's hear from you!!! Do I refurbish or replace??? > > > > Peace, Nick > > > > > > -- > Mm >

-- Neil2 '82 Diesel Westfalia (Ducky) '86 Vanagon/Westfalia Wannabe (SaVannah) '08 170" 2500 Mega Roof Dodge Sprinter (Moby) '90 Westfalia Subagon Fulltiming since August 2008 Nunquam Pendite Divendium


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