Date:         Mon, 26 Oct 2015 09:24:59 -0400
Reply-To:     george jannini <georgejoann@GMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         george jannini <georgejoann@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: I-4 conversion general info
In-Reply-To:  <006401d10f83$2fabb690$8f0323b0$@gmail.com>
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   I grafted a Jetta tach's guts and face in place of the WBX tach.
Redline's 6300.

Geo/ATL

On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 8:13 PM, Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I don't, so I'd have to sort that all out too.  And, I need FAS's kit,
> which includes the adapter plate, flywheel, flex plate, throttle/kick down
> cable; and their mounting system with oil pan and oil pickup. They really
> don't like the front to back VW diesel engine mount much.
>
> Doesn't make sense $$ wise for me, but I can see it working for '86-91
> with a manual transmission.
>
> Stuart
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
> Of Don Hanson
> Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2015 1:52 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: I-4 conversion general info
>
> If you have a good Digifant van already, and you use a Digifant inline
> motor...no need to mess with a wiring harness at all, other than maybe
> making a few wires longer or something....
>    That is what most people miss....it is real easy, if you keep the
> Digifant... And as far as I've been able to tell, there's nothing wrong
> with Digifant...
> On Oct 25, 2015 12:08 PM, "Rob" <vwrobb@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > As I saw it (just reading this great batch of information, Thanks!) if
> > you pick up the 83 diesel parts all you need is the exhaust, an engine
> > & a harness. Hoses & belts too but they are normal consumables.  I
> > realize I'm probably missing something.
> >
> > Rob
> > vwrobb@gmail.com
> >
> >
> >
> > At  10/25/2015 11:58 AM, Stuart MacMillan wrote:
> >
> >> I don't see a cheap way to do this on an '85 Digijet with an
> >> automatic transmission. FAS's kit for the auto is $3000, and you
> >> still need all the hoses, custom fabricated exhaust, and other bits.
> >> A Subaru conversion kit from RMW would cost $2700, but would include
> >> all the bits and pieces to "turn the key".
> >>
> >> It doesn't look like a practical conversion, am I missing something?
> >>
> >> Stuart
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
> >> Behalf Of Don Hanson
> >> Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2015 8:25 AM
> >> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> >> Subject: Re: I-4 conversion general info
> >>
> >> There doesn't seem to be a collection of information in any one place
> >> on this conversion...You'll have to look in multiple places to find
> >> your answers...The conversion IS rather simple, compared to any of
> >> the other options, and it's certainly a lot cheaper than any
> >> other....if you stick with a stock inline digifant motor for your
> swap...
> >>
> >>    A few leads to get you going....try the VW Vortex pages.   Techtonics
> >> Tuning, a VW specific parts place in Oregon has lots of parts for the
> >> inline VW motors and lots of specialized knowledge concerning how to
> >> make them work well.
> >>    If you stick with a stock inline cross-flow motor (92 and
> >> older?) and start with a decent digifant Vanagon, you could probably
> >> do the whole deal for under $500 and have a more powerful and
> >> dependable Vanagon in about one
> >> day's work...nothing special needed.   You may have to extend a couple
> of
> >> the vanagon's wires to make the plugs reach, and you will need to
> >> clearance a little in the engine bay to make room for the throttle
> body..
> >>
> >> .The inline VW, gas and diesel, are identical blocks....the gasser
> >> bolts right up to the engine mounts from a diesel vanagon....The
> >> engine management system is almost identical too..between the vanagon
> >> and the digifant jetta, rabbit, cabriolet motors....Parts are mostly
> >> interchangeable........
> >>    I ran a stock 92 Cabriolet motor (1.8 liter cross flow digifant)
> >> in my vanagon for a couple of years...Very robust and
> >> inexpensive...slightly better performance than a stock WBX
> >> motor...These motors are selling cheap.  The parts are cheap, too.
> >>    About two years ago I got another Jetta motor, complete, for $300.
>  I
> >> combined the older cross flow heads (to keep it simple) with the 2.0
> >> liter ABA Jetta ('93) and got a more powerful hybrid motor ...spent
> >> $600 total including all the parts, but I sold off the PS pump, the
> >> alternator, etc..and actually made some money  over the $300 I spent
> >> for the motor...this motor gives me about 125hp and ~25mpg in fuel
> use....
> >>    A good way to go as an alternative engine for the Vanagon.
> >>
> >> On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 9:58 PM, Rob <vwrobb@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > I'm looking for some general information on putting a gasoline VW
> >> > I-4 into a Vanagon.  I'm not asking the right questions at the
> >> > samba
> >> search...
> >> >
> >> > What do I need to do the conversion?
> >> >
> >> > Right now I'm just curious...
> >> >
> >> > Rob
> >> > vwrobb@gmail.com
> >> >
> >>
> >
>