Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2015 22:15:01 -0500
Reply-To: Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
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From: Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: AA Transaxle? German Transaxle? also Limited slip options?
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Before spending money on a fancy differential I would look at the tire-wheel combination. Fix the traction problem first.
Dennis
-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of Don Hanson
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2015 10:13 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: AA Transaxle? German Transaxle? also Limited slip options?
So everyone loves the Peloquin Limited slip...That seems to be the best
option, if price wasn't an issue, I'd do that... Has anyone any feedback
on the "normal" style clutches limited slip option that is used in other German transaxles and may be available, much more cheaply, for a
vanagon? I've driven racecars and street machines with this old style
limited slip, and they worked just fine....I think when I replaced the Porsche computer controlled LSD with regular clutch type from a turbo 911, the cost was nominal....
anyone tried this style Limited slip on the Vanagon..?
BTW, thanks for the feedback on our List Favorite transmission rebuilder(s)...
On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 2:15 PM, Will Taygan <vegwerks@gmail.com> wrote:
> I love my Peloquin, put in by AA. It's not magic, I still fishtail
> when accelerating on hard packed snow/ice, but I don't get stuck
> anymore. Well, chains come out maybe once a month, but I used to get
> stuck in my driveway regularly. I've got studless Nokian Hakkapeliitta CR3 winter tires.
>
> Will in Alaska
> '82 AAZ Westy
> On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 9:57 AM Tom Buese <tantonbz@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > My syncro has a rear locker, but no front locker, or decoupler. I
> believe
> > that lockers & a decoupler were factory options. This was Swedish
> Syncro,
> > & it came w/ a cold weather package of heated driver's seat, & rear
> heater,
> > in addition to the rear locker. Wish I had the decoupler. YMMV
> >
> > Mr. BZ
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 1:52 PM, Pat Spragge/RFAN
> > <Pat.Spragge@rfan.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Does it have lockers all around? Don't know much about the
> > > syncros and how they were sold new. Were lockers a Factory option
> > > or dealer or
> what?
> > >
> > > *Pat*
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Tom Buese <tantonbz@GMAIL.COM>
> > > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > > Date: 11/05/2015 10:43 AM
> > > Subject: Re: AA Transaxle? German Transaxle? also Limited slip
> > > options?
> > > Sent by: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I also have a Syncro Doka w/ Nokian All Season tires, & it will go
> almost
> > > anywhere in the snow! YMMV
> > >
> > > http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1422996.jpg
> > >
> > > Mr. BZ
> > >
> > > On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 1:37 PM, Tom Buese <tantonbz@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I agree Pat. I have top of the line Nokian All Season tires on
> > > > the
> > > Westy,
> > > > & the ground was level in my driveway last Winter. YMMV
> > > >
> > > > http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1422994.jpg
> > > >
> > > > Mr. BZ
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 12:35 PM, Pat Spragge/RFAN <
> > Pat.Spragge@rfan.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> *the Peloquin doesn't seem to help alot in the wet icy snow*
> > > >>
> > > >> Even a 4wd would have problems in wet, icy snow. The air/snow
> > > >> temp
> > > would
> > > >> be in the transition zone and that is where traction is the poorest.
> > > Good
> > > >> snow tires would help more than LSD.
> > > >>
> > > >> LSD works best in situations where traction under one rear
> > > >> wheel is
> > poor
> > > >> and some of the power is then transferred to the other wheel,
> > > >> which
> > is
> > > not
> > > >> what happens with a non-LSD
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> *Pat*
> > > >> 2013 Jeep Wrangler
> > > >> 1989 Westfalia
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> From: Tom Buese <tantonbz@GMAIL.COM>
> > > >> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > > >> Date: 11/05/2015 09:27 AM
> > > >> Subject: Re: AA Transaxle? German Transaxle? also Limited
> slip
> > > >> options?
> > > >> Sent by: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
> > > >> ------------------------------
> > >
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> I have a AA/Matt rebuilt 2 wd tranny w/ Peloquin in my 84
> > > >> Westy. No problems w/ the tranny etc. after maybe 20-25K
> > > >> miles but the
> Peloquin
> > > >> doesn't seem to help alot in the wet icy snow we get here in
> > > >> Coastal Maine. YMMV
> > > >>
> > > >> Mr. BZ
> > > >>
> > > >> On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 11:54 AM, KIM BRENNAN
> > > >> <kimbrennan@mac.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > I had 2 syncro transmissions and one front diff done at AA in
> > > >> > the
> > last
> > > >> > year. No problems. Front diff needed replacement VC. 1
> transmission
> > > >> (stock
> > > >> > gearing) got a LSD, and fixed 4th gear. 2nd transmission
> > > >> > replaced
> > 4th
> > > >> gear
> > > >> > (went from 0.70 to 0.77) and a bunch of other repairs to get
> > > >> > it
> > fully
> > > >> > operational again. I, of course, hit him when he was very
> > > >> > busy, so
> > it
> > > >> took
> > > >> > a while, but hey that’s why I have multiple Vanagons….
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > On Nov 5, 2015, at 9:18 AM, Don Hanson
> > > >> > > <dhanson928@GMAIL.COM>
> > > wrote:
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Hello All,
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > I know that Daryl, the revered transmission Guru whom
> > > >> > > everyone
> > > >> loved,
> > > >> > > for his excellent work and his fair prices, I know he
> > > >> > > passed on
> > > >> recently
> > > >> > > and left his business in the hands of his son. Has anyone had
> > any
> > > >> work
> > > >> > > done at AA Transaxle since Daryl's been gone, and how'd it go?
> > > >> > > Specifically, I'm about to have some overdue work done
> > > >> > > on my
> > 5sp
> > > >> > manual
> > > >> > > transmission as mounted in my 84 2.0 liter inline VW
> > > >> > > powered tin
> > top
> > > >> > > westie'. I'm appx an equal distance from Bend, Or or Duval,
> Wa..
> > > >> > .I'm
> > > >> > > about to choose between AA Transaxle and German Transaxle
> > > >> > > in
> > > >> Bend....I'm
> > > >> > > seeing a lower price figure from AA Transaxle,
> > > >> > > slightly....Money
> > is
> > > >> short
> > > >> > > around here, but I don't wanna have to do this twice....Is
> > > >> > > the
> > work
> > > >> now
> > > >> > > being done by AA Transaxle still up to their former quality?
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Second part of my query....How about limited slip options?
> I'd
> > > >> love
> > > >> > to
> > > >> > > install a locker rear end system, but that seems beyond my
> budget
> > > >> right
> > > >> > > now.....I hear the clutch pack type limited slips, the
> > > >> > > least
> > > expensive
> > > >> > > option(?) are somewhat 'sticky' and jerky in low speed
> > > >> > > tight turns....according to a spiel by Go Westy....anyone
> > > >> > > have an
> > opinion
> > > on
> > > >> > the
> > > >> > > relative merits of the two types of LSD's available for our
> > > >> > transmissions?
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Thanks, Don Hanson
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Friday-style addendum:
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > I'm funding the van's transmission rebuild by selling an
> > > >> > > old
> > Argosy
> > > >> 26'
> > > >> > > trailer...same as Airstream....These trailers are quite
> > > >> > > similar
> to
> > > our
> > > >> > > Vanagons in that they are appreciating in value over the
> years....
> > > >> > because
> > > >> > > they're so much better than all the other brands....We
> > > >> > > happily
> > > lived,
> > > >> for
> > > >> > > a few years, in this Argosy as we built our house, Though it
> > was
> > > >> built
> > > >> > > in 1974, almost everything still works! Just like a Vanagon!
> > Sure,
> > > >> it
> > > >> > has
> > > >> > > no electrical slide-out extra rooms and only one TV....but
> > > >> > > after
> > > >> 40yrs it
> > > >> > > is still better than what you might buy new today....just
> > > >> > > like a Vanagon....(oh, and these Airstream/Argosys are in
> > > >> > > big demand
> now,
> > > >> > because
> > > >> > > of their extraordinary build quality)
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> Tom Buese
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Tom Buese
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Tom Buese
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Tom Buese
> >
>
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