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Date:         Sun, 20 Dec 2015 21:17:13 +0000
Reply-To:     Jim Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Jim Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Dreaded water jacket head gasket leak strikes
Comments: To: Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To:  <CAFnDXk3PuWREoVR_k8HQG63m9CQLYZ1tqoPMFQtHxr+YvvCOjw@mail.gmail.com>
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Oh by the way you have to rotate the piston until the pin lines up with the hole in the outer water jacket that's there for a bolt on cooling pipe. I know this is sounding like fun already.

Jim

On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 3:15 PM Jim Felder <jim.felder@gmail.com> wrote:

> Fortunately for me, I was able to use a washer-and-threaded-rod setup I > had made up for water boxers when another 2.1 was out of the car. I used > this with a slide puller. It was a horrible job and I have been involved > with some horrible jobs. It was the worst ever! If the head comes right > off, you're fine. You might as well try it before hauling to a shop, or at > least pulling it so you can get it into a stand. You won't have to crack > the case, but you have to be able to get to it and that's limited enough > with the engine in the stand. > > Jim > > On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 2:21 PM Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Yeah, how did you do that? The Bentley shows sleeve is installed over the >> piston, then the assembly is inserted over the rod and the pin and clip >> inserted. I've had problems getting piston pins out of different engines, >> and I don't have those VW tools. They even have a reamer for removing >> burrs >> on the piston to get that pin out. >> >> At that point I'd likely have to have the whole mess towed to a shop. I >> may >> just do that now. >> >> Stuart >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf >> Of >> Alistair Bel >> Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 12:08 PM >> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >> Subject: Re: Dreaded water jacket head gasket leak strikes >> >> I pulled the cylinders and put in the new o rings ( I had the gasket set). >> Then I had the fun of compressing rings etc. >> >> Alistair >> >> > On Dec 20, 2015, at 11:32 AM, J Stewart <fonman4277@comcast.net> wrote: >> > >> > I had the same, one sleeve was really stuck to the head, and pulled out >> about an inch. Several folks told me when that happens you MUST replace >> the >> black O ring at it's base. Others said don't bother. Problem was, both >> these >> opinions came from respected sources! Supposedly it is possible to replace >> that O ring without pulling the sleeve off the piston, but I'll be damned >> if >> I could figure out how to do it. I chose not to replace the O ring, and >> had >> no problems-again, only in 5,000 miles. >> > >> > Oh, one other thing. I had a dickens of a time getting the head off the >> cylinders on one side. It was really stuck and I think I ended up pulling >> the cylinders from that side. >> > >> > Alistair >> > >> > >> > >> > > On Dec 20, 2015, at 10:20 AM, Alistair Bel <albell@SHAW.CA> wrote: >> > > >> > > I did a quick and dirty head job a couple of years ago. Before I did >> it >> I tried the Subie stop leak and it did help a bit. >> > > >> > > I had a couple of spare used heads and I think I swapped in one when I >> found a crack between the valves on June of the heads I took off. >> > > >> > > There was some pitting on the heads and I filled that with jb weld. I >> used "Right Stuff" sealant on the big rubber seal. Seems to have worked >> out >> well, no leaks after two years. I was supposed to be putting in a >> different >> engine and this was just a fix until then. Still haven't put in a new >> engine. >> > > >> > > Anyway, pics of the jb weld part here >> > > >> > > >> >> https://shufti.wordpress.com/2013/05/21/vanagon-quick-and-dirty-head-recondi >> tioning/ >> <https://shufti.wordpress.com/2013/05/21/vanagon-quick-and-dirty-head-reconditioning/> >> > > >> > > >> > > Alistair >> > > >> > > >> > >> On Dec 20, 2015, at 9:54 AM, J Stewart <fonman4277@COMCAST.NET> >> wrote: >> > >> >> > >> I had no luck with the Suby conditioner, but then my gasket was >> torn. I >> also paid a lot less than the $30.00 this Amazon ad claims is the list >> price, as I recall at the local Subaru dealer it was $2.50 a bottle. The >> FIRST head gasket replacement on mine lasted 300 miles-yes, I said the >> first. I was not happy that at 300 miles I developed another leak, this >> time >> around one of the head nuts. I was told by a couple of respected VW gurus >> that re-using a head may not work, as cracks can happen around the head >> stud >> passages. I purchased a "used" head from Go Westy for $350.00. They said >> it >> was used with very low mileage but it sure looked brand new to me. The >> second head gasket/head replacement went a LOT faster than the first one, >> lol. That repair lasted at least 5K miles. I say at least because I then >> sold the van. As far as I know it is still going strong. Jeff >> > >> >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- >> > >> >> > >>> for now you may try this Subaru coolant conditioner >> > >> >> > >>> >> >> http://www.amazon.com/Subaru-SOA635071-Coolant-System-Conditioner/dp/B00IGZP >> >> 2UE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1450574144&sr=8-1&keywords=subaru+coolant+conditi >> <http://www.amazon.com/Subaru-SOA635071-Coolant-System-Conditioner/dp/B00IGZP2UE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1450574144&sr=8-1&keywords=subaru+coolant+conditi> >> oner >> > >> >> > >>> it's working well on my son's Jeep.. loss of coolant but no leak >> (internal >> > >>> leak) >> > >> >


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