Date:         Tue, 15 Dec 2015 18:37:16 -0500
Reply-To:     Dennis Jowell <dennisjowell@GMAIL.COM>
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From:         Dennis Jowell <dennisjowell@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: A Westy awning (UPDATE)
Comments: To: Pat Spragge/RFAN <Pat.Spragge@rfan.com>
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OK, the problem is the forward holding part of the awning so that won't work,
but thanks for the thought

Dennis

Dennis Jowell
Scotch Hollow Farm
Newbury, Vermont 


> On Dec 15, 2015, at 6:33 PM, Pat Spragge/RFAN <Pat.Spragge@rfan.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Mine is shorter, 8', so wouldn't help with the forward attachment point.
> LMK if you would still like photos. I'll have to send them to you directly

> 
> Pat
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 15, 2015, at 3:29 PM, Dennis Jowell <dennisjowell@GMAIL.COM>
> wrote:
>> 
>> Pat,
>> Pictures would be great! What size is your awning? THe Fiamma I have is
> 10' forward to aft.
>> Thanks for your help. Pmail me if it easier
>> 
>> Dennis
>> 
>> Dennis Jowell
>> Scotch Hollow Farm
>> Newbury, Vermont
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 15, 2015, at 4:53 PM, Pat Spragge/RFAN <Pat.Spragge@rfan.com>
> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dennis,
>>> 
>>> I have a Carefree of Colorado awning on my '89 Westfalia and use side
> brackets unless I am using the "room" attachment and then I also use
> additional poles on the ground to support the extra weight.  If you'd like

> a picture or 2 of the brackets, let me know.
>>> 
>>> Pat
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From:        Dennis Jowell <dennisjowell@GMAIL.COM>
>>> To:        vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>> Date:        12/15/2015 01:47 PM
>>> Subject:        Re: A Westy awning (UPDATE)
>>> Sent by:        Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I do have the 35' tie down strap for the Fiamma and we will use it
> first. Especially before drilling holes in our Westy.
>>> Trying to understand some of the parameters.
>>> 
>>> Dennis
>>> 
>>> Dennis Jowell
>>> Scotch Hollow Farm
>>> Newbury, Vermont
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 15, 2015, at 2:51 PM, Jim Hildt <jim@chnwmd.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I have installed the bracket on the sidewall, maybe it was a
> different size.
>>>> The reality, we have rarely used the side brackets, 95% of the time,
> the legs go on the ground, and tied down.
>>>> Before drilling holes, try it without the brackets.
>>>> 
>>>> Jim
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Dennis Jowell [mailto:dennisjowell@gmail.com]
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2015 11:45 AM
>>>> To: Jim Hildt
>>>> Cc: Vanagon VW Gerry.Vanagon.com
>>>> Subject: Re: A Westy awning (UPDATE)
>>>> 
>>>> Does anyone have experience installing the Fiamma wall brackets for a
> 10' awning? On my Westy? The aft bracket is not the question it is the
> forward bracket. I don't think it should go on the passenger door or the
> wheel rim that would be short term installation. I wonder if the forward
> leg of the awning could be adapted somehow to work? Or just go with the aft
> bracket installed and use some tie downs for the other leg?
>>>> 
>>>> Dennis
>>>> 
>>>> Dennis Jowell
>>>> Scotch Hollow Farm
>>>> Newbury, Vermont
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 12, 2015, at 6:02 PM, Jim Hildt <jim@chnwmd.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Your right there.  I went without the center bracket for a season,
> rattled until I got the center bracket on.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Prepare for disaster, roll it up at night and always slant if there
> is any chance of rain, and you won't have any repairs as I had. One
> learning experience of complicity.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Roil it out after a rain trip on the next dry day.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The strength of the awning makes double duty for a shower.
>>>>> 
>>>>> In the meantime, hang out the Christmas lights like the big boy
> RV's.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jim
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Dennis Jowell [mailto:dennisjowell@gmail.com]
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 1:32 PM
>>>>> To: Jim Hildt
>>>>> Cc: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>>>> Subject: Re: A Westy awning (UPDATE)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Finally got our Westy 10' Fiamma awning. What an awesome product ! I
> installed it with somewhat a challenge getting the center bracket bolted to
> the awning. The unit came with 3 brackets and a center rafter as standard.

> Awning arrived in 3 weeks as VanCafe said. Different experience seeing an
> 18 wheel truck on our back country dirt road delivering the awning.  Thanks
> for all the help in understanding everything I needed to know to make this

> decision! Onto our next camping experience.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Laters,
>>>>> Dennis
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dennis Jowell
>>>>> Scotch Hollow Farm
>>>>> Newbury, Vermont
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Nov 17, 2015, at 1:24 PM, Jim Hildt <jim@CHNWMD.COM> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You don’t need it all the time, but it stores out of the way and
> will make the awning tighter and easier to adjust and slant for rain.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Protects the investment.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
> Behalf Of Loren Busch
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 10:14 AM
>>>>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: A Westy awning (UPDATE)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> RE: Fiamma and Rain
>>>>>> One more item about the Fiamma.
>>>>>> The curved center rafter (extra money, IIRC $85) does make a real
> difference when dealing with rain.  Also gives a little more headroom in
> the center.  I am glad I ordered one.