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Date:         Fri, 1 Jan 2016 13:17:29 -0500
Reply-To:     Larry Alofs <lalofs@GMAIL.COM>
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From:         Larry Alofs <lalofs@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Wondering about coolant physics
Comments: To: Jim Felder <jim.felder@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To:  <CAFnDXk2kkkuWuAUz+ghBxfRomTBZXiTk3TqVTZpa82q5OFfXtg@mail.gmail.com>
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Are you really, really sure that the sound is from air coming out, not going in?

Once, a few years ago, someone on this list said that he had a coolant pressure gauge on his dash.. I have wanted one ever since, but have not run across a suitable gauge that would read a reasonable amount of both pressure and vacuum. I would also need to find or make a suitable fitting to attach to the top of the radiator (banjo bolt?). Maybe some day...

Larry A.

On Fri, Jan 1, 2016 at 12:57 PM, Jim Felder <jim.felder@gmail.com> wrote:

> Not very important as my car is running and cooling well, but I am curious > about this issue which I can't come up with an explanation for. > > I recently installed new radiator hoses and with the help of this list, > finally got it right by going to a 1.9 waterboxer reservoir on my 1983 > diesel. > > Everything is good and seemingly snug, but on a cold night like last night > and a few before, I find a small puddle, what I always called a "cold leak" > that doesn't appear when the engine is running or when the weather is > warmer. It's so slight, I can't really tell exactly where it's coming from, > maybe a couple of tablespoons when it gets down around freezing. > > When I open the pressure cap, I get a burp of air. This is from cold, no > starting or running whatsoever. > > How can this be? There's obviously a small leak somewhere around the > reservoir, maybe even the cap or a connection or even the coolant level > indicator. There just isn't more than a few drops on the hoses to leave a > trace. I may powder it with flour dust to find out more about where it is > coming from and how it gets to the ground. > > But back to the burp: air in the system and coolant in the system is at > equilibrium with the atmosphere when it is added, right? Then you drive the > car, and it heats up, then the system becomes pressurized which raises the > boiling point of the coolant even further. Then the car sits out overnight, > and the temperatures the next morning are even lower, so you would expect > no pressure or, as the system is designed to take advantage of, a vacuum to > suck in coolant from the overflow tank to displace the air, right? > > This isn't happening. I suspect it's a crappy blue cap, the second I've > bought in two months, is preventing the intake of coolant. But maybe it's > because of this residual pressure that I can't figure out. why is there a > burp when I open the cap in the morning instead of nothing? > > Anyone? > > Jim > > Jim >


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