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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 2016 09:25:06 -0800
Reply-To:     Neil N <musomuso@GMAIL.COM>
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From:         Neil N <musomuso@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Switching from GL5 to GL4 Gear Oil: Findings
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Hi all.

Since "new", I'd run two types of GL5 oil on my AA rebuilt transaxle. With either, engine cold, I saw stiff shifting until vehicle driven some miles, difficulty getting into 2nd gear and with engine off, difficulty shifting into gear without depressing the clutch pedal. While driving, the gears would sometimes "catch" going into 2nd. I recently put int Redline MT90. I'd used it in another transaxle before but didn't realize until now that it's an actual GL4 rated oil. The Redline greatly improved all the issues. My clutch, hydraulics, linkage bushings etc. are ok and though this bus has a shortened WBX shift linkage, I don't think this modification introduced any glaring alignment issue in the linkage; the previous transaxle worked ok until it stuck in 4th a few times. The engine has slightly more HP than a 2.1 WBX.

Once the Redline MT90 was in, even with the engine off and cold, shifting felt MUCH smoother. Like it felt normal. On the test drive, shifting felt better right away. On a recent colder weather camping trip, shifting was a complete joy. On one cold morning, the first few shifts into 2nd might feel a little stiff but this quickly improved.

I'm not saying all GL5 gear oils might cause the issues I saw. e.g. my '88 Westy shifts ok with Lucas GL5. Sorry. Can't recall if it's the synthetic or mineral type. Other car enthusiasts endorse GL4 as the correct type for a transmission/transaxle using brass parts. e.g. Corvair

http://www.widman.biz/Corvair/English/Links/Transaxle.html

I will probably put in Brad Penn "Classic" gear oil in the future

http://www.penngrade1.com/Products/Gear-Lubricants/GL4-SAE-80W90.aspx

This is probably "old news" to most listers here but for me, no more GL5 ! ;)

Neil.

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