Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 14:12:50 -0800
Reply-To: Eric Wunrow <VW@ERICWUNROW.COM>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Eric Wunrow <VW@ERICWUNROW.COM>
Subject: Re: Ethanol Free Gas.. No fuel pump buzzing?
In-Reply-To: <CAP_Yzp+-bYaRtO-LwRN7Etq3wnoKLdTYLrGuMUmFj_wfKP+LnQ@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
For what it's worth, my fuel pump stopped (loudly!) buzzing the instant I got rid of the plastic filter and put on the Van Cafe fuel filter upgrade kit.
Easy install, about an hour in a motel parking lot (we're full-timing).
Eric
Eric Wunrow Pictures
303. 988. 8717
VW@EricWunrow.com
On Feb 26, 2016, at 12:35 PM, Tyler Hardison <tyler@SERAPH-NET.NET> wrote:
> Meant to send to the whole list.
>
> I do not have the square filter between the tank and pump. Nor does it
> appear that this van ever had one..? I am considering adding one.
>
> Also found this.. http://goo.gl/i73hNm
>
> --t
>
> 1985 Westy Weekender 1.9l Original Engine.
>
> On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 12:30 PM, James <jk_eaton@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> To quantify the question, one reference says 111,800 BTU per US gallon for
>> reformulated E10, vs 114,000 BTUs per US gallon for regular gasoline - a
>> 1.9% reduction in energy content. (Other factors do come into play,
>> including the different motor octane and research octane numbers of the
>> E10, and the slightly lower viscosity, which may cause certain fuel
>> injection systems to inject more E10 per cycle, lowering fuel mileage.)
>>
>> I had an '83 VW Rabbit, CIS injection, that took a 10% mileage hit running
>> on a late '80s version of E10 - but had measurably faster acceleration in
>> gear, and much better hill climbing ability on the E10. Every engine will
>> vary in its reactions.
>>
>> Perhaps the lack of fuel pump noise is due to the E10 picking up some of
>> the water (or rust) in your fuel tank and carrying it to the pump, which
>> the regular gas is not doing. Do you have a fuel filter between your tank
>> and pump?
>>
>> James
>> Ottawa, ON
>>
>>
>>> Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 13:15:06 -0600
>>> From: jrodgers113@GMAIL.COM
>>> Subject: Re: Ethanol Free Gas.. No fuel pump buzzing?
>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>>
>>> My understanding about the alcohol in fuel, is, that except for the
>>> enviromental factor (and that's questionable) gasohol is a rip. It simply
>>> doesn't have the btu's that gasoline has. So by adding alcohol to
>> gasoline
>>> you get a power reduction, yet you still pay the same price. I know the
>>> corn subsidy to the farmers has to be factored in somehow. Thats a hit on
>>> our taxes.
>>>
>>> Anybody got more?
>>>
>>> John
>>> On Feb 26, 2016 13:02, "Tyler Hardison" <tyler@seraph-net.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> That's why I'm confused. I did nothing else to the fuel pump other than
>>>> fill up with Corn Likker free.
>>>>
>>>> The Butler Market Valero here in Bend carries it. Perhaps other
>> Bendites
>>>> know of a cheaper spot?
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 10:18 AM, David McNeely <
>> davmcneely40@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Where are you that non-alcoholic fuel costs that much? I generally
>> get
>>>> it
>>>>> for about 10 cents per gallon above the equivalent grade for
>> alcoholic.
>>>>> Currently locally (Spokane, WA) that amounts to $1.90 for
>> non-alcoholic
>>>>> regular. But, I have to drive several miles across town, and have
>> been
>>>>> burning regular alcoholic that I buy for $1.75 from an outlet owned
>> by
>>>> the
>>>>> Spokane Tribe. When I lived in Oklahoma non-alcoholic was widely
>>>>> available, but not here. I get better mileage with non-alcoholic in
>> my
>>>>> Prius, but haven't been able to make an adequate comparison with the
>>>>> camper, since my driving conditions with it vary so much from trip to
>>>>> trip. I believe it does better, however.
>>>>>
>>>>> How would the alcoholic stuff damage the fuel pump? I understand its
>>>>> damaging fuel lines and connectors. Are the pump innards plastic?
>>>>>
>>>>> mcneely
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 9:32 AM, Tyler Hardison <
>> tyler@seraph-net.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yesterday I filled the tank with Ethanol Free gas (3.99/gal ouch) to
>>>>>> experiment.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Observations:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. Van is running a bit smoother.
>>>>>> 2. She's got a little more pep.
>>>>>> 3. The most puzzling thing: The fuel pump stopped buzzing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is it possible that E10 is damaging our fuel pumps?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --t
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>
|