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Date:         Fri, 26 Feb 2016 12:35:07 -0800
Reply-To:     Tyler Hardison <tyler@SERAPH-NET.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Tyler Hardison <tyler@SERAPH-NET.NET>
Subject:      Re: Ethanol Free Gas.. No fuel pump buzzing?
Comments: To: James <jk_eaton@hotmail.com>
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Meant to send to the whole list.

I do not have the square filter between the tank and pump. Nor does it appear that this van ever had one..? I am considering adding one.

Also found this.. http://goo.gl/i73hNm

--t

1985 Westy Weekender 1.9l Original Engine.

On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 12:30 PM, James <jk_eaton@hotmail.com> wrote:

> To quantify the question, one reference says 111,800 BTU per US gallon for > reformulated E10, vs 114,000 BTUs per US gallon for regular gasoline - a > 1.9% reduction in energy content. (Other factors do come into play, > including the different motor octane and research octane numbers of the > E10, and the slightly lower viscosity, which may cause certain fuel > injection systems to inject more E10 per cycle, lowering fuel mileage.) > > I had an '83 VW Rabbit, CIS injection, that took a 10% mileage hit running > on a late '80s version of E10 - but had measurably faster acceleration in > gear, and much better hill climbing ability on the E10. Every engine will > vary in its reactions. > > Perhaps the lack of fuel pump noise is due to the E10 picking up some of > the water (or rust) in your fuel tank and carrying it to the pump, which > the regular gas is not doing. Do you have a fuel filter between your tank > and pump? > > James > Ottawa, ON > > > > Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 13:15:06 -0600 > > From: jrodgers113@GMAIL.COM > > Subject: Re: Ethanol Free Gas.. No fuel pump buzzing? > > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > > > > My understanding about the alcohol in fuel, is, that except for the > > enviromental factor (and that's questionable) gasohol is a rip. It simply > > doesn't have the btu's that gasoline has. So by adding alcohol to > gasoline > > you get a power reduction, yet you still pay the same price. I know the > > corn subsidy to the farmers has to be factored in somehow. Thats a hit on > > our taxes. > > > > Anybody got more? > > > > John > > On Feb 26, 2016 13:02, "Tyler Hardison" <tyler@seraph-net.net> wrote: > > > > > That's why I'm confused. I did nothing else to the fuel pump other than > > > fill up with Corn Likker free. > > > > > > The Butler Market Valero here in Bend carries it. Perhaps other > Bendites > > > know of a cheaper spot? > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 10:18 AM, David McNeely < > davmcneely40@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Where are you that non-alcoholic fuel costs that much? I generally > get > > > it > > > > for about 10 cents per gallon above the equivalent grade for > alcoholic. > > > > Currently locally (Spokane, WA) that amounts to $1.90 for > non-alcoholic > > > > regular. But, I have to drive several miles across town, and have > been > > > > burning regular alcoholic that I buy for $1.75 from an outlet owned > by > > > the > > > > Spokane Tribe. When I lived in Oklahoma non-alcoholic was widely > > > > available, but not here. I get better mileage with non-alcoholic in > my > > > > Prius, but haven't been able to make an adequate comparison with the > > > > camper, since my driving conditions with it vary so much from trip to > > > > trip. I believe it does better, however. > > > > > > > > How would the alcoholic stuff damage the fuel pump? I understand its > > > > damaging fuel lines and connectors. Are the pump innards plastic? > > > > > > > > mcneely > > > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 9:32 AM, Tyler Hardison < > tyler@seraph-net.net> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> Yesterday I filled the tank with Ethanol Free gas (3.99/gal ouch) to > > > >> experiment. > > > >> > > > >> Observations: > > > >> > > > >> 1. Van is running a bit smoother. > > > >> 2. She's got a little more pep. > > > >> 3. The most puzzling thing: The fuel pump stopped buzzing. > > > >> > > > >> Is it possible that E10 is damaging our fuel pumps? > > > >> > > > >> --t > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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