Date: Mon, 29 Feb 2016 20:31:48 -0500
Reply-To: Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
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From: Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Ethanol Free Gas.. No fuel pump buzzing?
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All VW engines use aluminum heads with hardend valve seats. Regression is not an issue on them as it is with valves banging on cast seats or directly against the head material.
Dennis
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From: KI4TLF<mailto:ki4tlf@GMAIL.COM>
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2016 11:06 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM<mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Subject: Re: Ethanol Free Gas.. No fuel pump buzzing?
I run several gallons per tank of 100LL in my air-cooled engines when I can. The lead helps with the regression of the valve seats in the 1.7, 1.8 and 2.0l engines.
I don’t have a problem getting it. When they ask why I’m getting it at the airport, I just tell them I fly an ultralight airplane. Used to fly one and hope to again within a couple of years.
GregM
From: Jason [mailto:uberhare@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 4:42 PM
To: KI4TLF
Cc: vanagon
Subject: Re: Ethanol Free Gas.. No fuel pump buzzing?
You can often buy "Mogas" around airports. Can't run ethanol in airplanes (for many reasons)...My bird uses 100LL (low lead) but lower compression older planes can is the 87.
Jason
Uberbus
On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 3:01 PM, KI4TLF <ki4tlf@gmail.com> wrote:
It also runs leaner and cooler than straight gasoline. In a carbureted engine, running alcohol you have to almost double the size of the jets to get the mixture correct.
GregM
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From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of John Rodgers
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 1:15 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: Ethanol Free Gas.. No fuel pump buzzing?
My understanding about the alcohol in fuel, is, that except for the enviromental factor (and that's questionable) gasohol is a rip. It simply doesn't have the btu's that gasoline has. So by adding alcohol to gasoline you get a power reduction, yet you still pay the same price. I know the corn subsidy to the farmers has to be factored in somehow. Thats a hit on our taxes.
Anybody got more?
John
On Feb 26, 2016 13:02, "Tyler Hardison" <tyler@seraph-net.net> wrote:
> That's why I'm confused. I did nothing else to the fuel pump other
> than fill up with Corn Likker free.
>
> The Butler Market Valero here in Bend carries it. Perhaps other
> Bendites know of a cheaper spot?
>
> On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 10:18 AM, David McNeely
> <davmcneely40@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Where are you that non-alcoholic fuel costs that much? I generally
> > get
> it
> > for about 10 cents per gallon above the equivalent grade for alcoholic.
> > Currently locally (Spokane, WA) that amounts to $1.90 for
> > non-alcoholic regular. But, I have to drive several miles across
> > town, and have been burning regular alcoholic that I buy for $1.75
> > from an outlet owned by
> the
> > Spokane Tribe. When I lived in Oklahoma non-alcoholic was widely
> > available, but not here. I get better mileage with non-alcoholic in
> > my Prius, but haven't been able to make an adequate comparison with
> > the camper, since my driving conditions with it vary so much from
> > trip to trip. I believe it does better, however.
> >
> > How would the alcoholic stuff damage the fuel pump? I understand
> > its damaging fuel lines and connectors. Are the pump innards plastic?
> >
> > mcneely
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 9:32 AM, Tyler Hardison
> > <tyler@seraph-net.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Yesterday I filled the tank with Ethanol Free gas (3.99/gal ouch)
> >> to experiment.
> >>
> >> Observations:
> >>
> >> 1. Van is running a bit smoother.
> >> 2. She's got a little more pep.
> >> 3. The most puzzling thing: The fuel pump stopped buzzing.
> >>
> >> Is it possible that E10 is damaging our fuel pumps?
> >>
> >> --t
> >>
> >
> >
>
