Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2016 10:52:47 -0500
Reply-To: Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
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From: Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: [WetWesties] Help needed- non-Vanagon
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And that is why good diagnostics cannot be replaced by parts swapping.
There is also the possibility that the starter has a problem or there is a bad battery cable, connection, etc.
Dennis
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeremy Stovin [mailto:jjstov@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 6, 2016 10:17 AM
To: Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: [WetWesties] Help needed- non-Vanagon
I'm not sure if you saw my last update.
Got a jump, started no prob. Went to O'Reily's and they tested the battery. They said it tested as bad. So I went to Les Schwab and had them replace the battery (for fear of the radio locking up, etc).
New battery. Done. Go home. Relax. 2 hours later (nighttime), I try to start up, won't start.
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> On Mar 6, 2016, at 6:49 AM, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
> As Loren says it appears you have a low or dead battery. It could be the battery is tired and running the emergency flashers finished it off. Folks don’t think about but 4 22 watt bulbs take a significant amount of current. Yes they are flashing but you can still be looking at an average of 4 to 6 Amp Hours.
>
> It is also possible that the charging system stopped and the headlight indicator is noting the reduce current draw related to a low voltage condition.
>
> Since you own a Vanagon and want to avoid paying shops for repairs you need a multi meter. Check the battery voltage at rest and then while trying to start the engine. If it drops rapidly the battery is discharged or defective. Defective batteries will also make jump starting difficult. All methods of jump starting rely on the battery being able to accept some current (why you wait a few minutes) and then being able to deliver while the jumping source adds enough to get the job done.
>
> Once you get the engine started you want to check the charging system operation. With a very low battery you still want to see at least 13.5 volts. The set point for most VW products is 13.8 volts. This is what you want to see with the battery charged and most accessories off. Anything from 13.6 to 14.2 is good.
>
> Batteries can show good voltage at rest but loose charge over time or not be able to deliver current. A load test is a good idea.
>
> Dennis
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
> Behalf Of Loren Busch
> Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 6:20 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: [WetWesties] Help needed- non-Vanagon
>
> Everything you say says 'dead battery'. Batteries can just die on you, I have had that happen. But more likely battery not getting charged. Try using a jumper battery or getting someone to help with a jump start. If you have AAA they can diagnose the battery on the spot (I've had that done by them) and sell you and install a new battery right there. Can probably check to see if the alternator is charging also. So, my next call would be AAA for battery problems, not for towing yet.
>
>> On Sat, Mar 5, 2016 at 2:11 PM, Jeremy Stovin jjstov@yahoo.com [wetwesties] <wetwesties-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> Sorry, guys. My Westy is ok. It is my other car, but I didn't know
>> anyone more knowledgeable than you guys on cars!
>>
>> It's my '08 VW Passat. Been driving fine, aside from the message
>> telling me to get in for my 92000 service.
>>
>> Running errands today, no problems. After my last stop, I noticed a
>> warning light came that is telling me there is a problem with one of
>> my headlights. Not sure which one as I did not see the message that tells me.
>>
>> I stop in front of my condo to unload everything. Put the hazard
>> lights on since I'm in the road. Come back to my car, and it won't start!
>>
>> Half turn of the engine and then nothing. Thinking it may be the
>> battery, I shut off all accessories, but still nothing. All
>> accessories work fine. I finally push it to a parking space.
>>
>> Current symptoms: not even half turn, but there is a strong clicking
>> from the starter. Battery is at 12.2.
>>
>> Could this be the battery out of nowhere? Anything else to check?
>> Before I bug a neighbor for a jump or call AAA to tow it to the
>> dealership 30miles away.
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
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