Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 14:43:13 -0400
Reply-To: kenneth wilford <kenwilfy@GMAIL.COM>
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From: kenneth wilford <kenwilfy@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Coolant Loss- is it that time again?
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If it is an external head gasket leak, I have gotten some extension between
head gasket replacement by using a bottle of stop leak. Kseal from NAPA is
good. Usually stops a small seep for about a year before it starts seeping
again. Been using these additives for years and years with no ill effects
on heater core etc. Just my experience. The next person will tell you how
damaging they are, but that has not been my experience. Also Subaru and
other car manufacturers have actually sold or used as an approved head
gasket repair, sealant in a bottle.
Ken
On Mar 30, 2016 2:30 PM, "David" <fjazzbass@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Dean..thanks for weighing in...I'm always hyper sensitive to that sweet
> (not so sweet) smell...between that and gasoline I have always made it a
> point to keep my sniffer active around this car- that doesn't mean I
> haven't missed it...
>
> With the heads replaced in 05, this little buggy has been so faithful...
>
> I'll keep looking for the leak (please let it be!!!) and if I have to tear
> it up, I will...I swapped an old 351 for 351 last year, this has much more
> access and a much smaller footprint...
>
> Dave
>
> On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 11:17 AM, Dean S <predsmaniac@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > David after the van has warmed up some and you have taken it on the road
> to
> > drive and got it up to operating temperature and then parked it...do you
> > smell a faint hint of coolant,when you depart the vehicle? I had this
> > happen for a long while and no one could find the issue...was eventually
> > found out to be a leaking "water jacket" and have since had both replaced
> > with new heads et all!
> >
> > hope that helps...I had the mystery disappearing coolant syndrome also as
> > it was burning off with no discernible leaking.
> >
> > Good luck DS
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 2:07 PM, Jim Felder <jim.felder@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Also be sure that the hose from the blue cap is even connected to the
> > > overflow tank. You'll miss the link for sure if it isn't.
> > >
> > > Jim
> > >
> > > On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 1:05 PM Jim Felder <jim.felder@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Right behind the license plate. There is a "full" mark molded into
> the
> > > > plastic. The level should be round that. If it comes near the fill
> > > hole--or
> > > > above it so that it spills--you have a problem there.
> > > >
> > > > Jim
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 1:02 PM David <fjazzbass@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hi Jim,
> > > >>
> > > >> Overflow in the rear (license plate) or expansion on the inside of
> > > engine
> > > >> cavity?
> > > >>
> > > >> thanks, Dave...
> > > >>
> > > >> On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 10:39 AM, Jim Felder <jim.felder@gmail.com>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Also if no one has mentioned it yet, be sure to check your overflow
> > > tank.
> > > >>> If coolant spills out when you open it, it's coming out when you
> are
> > > >>> driving and you don't know it. Replace the cap.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Jim
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 12:38 PM Stuart MacMillan <
> > > stuartmacm@gmail.com>
> > > >>> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> > Internal leak would be into the crankcase, and you'd know about
> > that!
> > > >>> > Blown internal head gasket ring would over-pressurize the system
> > and
> > > >>> > coolant would come out of the overflow bottle. Keep looking, the
> > > front
> > > >>> > heater valve above the spare or a cracked expansion tank can leak
> > > under
> > > >>> > pressure and you don't always see it.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Since you have metal coolant tubes to the radiator, I doubt those
> > are
> > > >>> > leaking like the plastic tubes do, but I'd make sure all
> > connections
> > > >>> are
> > > >>> > tight. Last, it could be the outer rubber head gaskets with a
> slow
> > > >>> leak. :-(
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Stuart
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > -----Original Message-----
> > > >>> > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
> > > >>> Behalf
> > > >>> > Of David
> > > >>> > Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 7:02 AM
> > > >>> > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > > >>> > Subject: Coolant Loss- is it that time again?
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > On my 85 1.9 (second set of heads...that we did 11 years ago) I'm
> > > >>> > suspecting internal leakage...
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > I have had a lot of coolant loss over a long period of time...I
> > > topped
> > > >>> up
> > > >>> > the bottle- thinkng that maybe when a heater control switch was
> > > >>> switched
> > > >>> > out that we just didn't get all the air out of the system...
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > I did have another external leak that I fixed- but something just
> > > >>> doesn't
> > > >>> > seem right.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Just finished pouring about a gallon of antifreeze into the
> system
> > > this
> > > >>> > AM- and doing some bleeding...what's next? How can I locate this
> > > >>> internal
> > > >>> > leak?
> > > >>> > Or would there be some other not so obvious places? Rear heater
> is
> > > >>> > bypassed...maybe lost coolant from that operation and it's only
> > > >>> showing up
> > > >>> > now...something aint right!
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > The engine runs like a champ- full power - after my more recent
> > > >>> electrical
> > > >>> > (I believe to have been) issues- reseating all major
> suspects...it
> > > >>> runs and
> > > >>> > idles wonderfully....
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Any advice is welcome... do we have to check for exhaust in the
> > > >>> coolant?
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Dave
> > > >>> > 85 1.9 GL MT
> > > >>> >
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4Us7SZ7eY0GCHXKxNwDnww
> >
> > "Semper Vigilo, Fortis, Paratus et Fidelis" "*Malo periculosam,
> libertatem
> > quam quietam servitutem"*
> > La Florida 1513
> >
> >
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> >
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