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Date:         Fri, 1 Apr 2016 13:40:14 -1000
Reply-To:     "SDF ( aka ;jim lahey' - Scott )" <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
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From:         "SDF ( aka ;jim lahey' - Scott )" <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject:      Re: Redline MT90
Comments: To: John Rodgers <jrodgers113@GMAIL.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <CA+az7_5kO=UgmcskqhQHfGPvdVceatY7iGO=QLMbXT=oV=xO2A@mail.gmail.com>
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YEP.. not how it's suppossed to be. first...'mechanically' speaking ..on pedal and push rod..is there a lot of loose sloppy play at the top of the pedal. It should be just a little...1/4 inch ...1/8th inch even ..started that way from the Factory. One inch is not too bad. I have one van where it's a solid 2 inches..all due to mechanical slop, nothing to do with hydraulics. On that van I have to push the pedal down firmly, and the van starts to move with the clutch about 1 1/2 inches off the floor, which isn't really right.

that van also has a great clutch and hydraulics as I put that all together .. and I just havn't gotten around to fixing the clutch pedal wear.

I even have whole complete Pedal Assemblies with less wear, or ready for a nice bushing mod, that I havn't found time for.

As I said there is a pushrod adjustment .. horrible to deal with, and would never be needed if it were not for the wear at the clevis pin in the clutch pedal.

legnthening the rod can compensate for wear in the clutch pedal clevis pin hole, but it's not the real right way to fix it.

i have read about people cutting a hole in the body behind the left front headlight to get at that area. Have not tried that myself. there is a guy online who sells an upgraded clutch pedal arrangment . Don't know the site. Subaru conversion people use his custom part.

the pedal assembly ...to really re-work and fix the worn hole in the pedal .. it comes out, without taking out the dash, but it's not real easy.

Ultimately though, you want that fixed , and improved, really right.

Van should start to move with pedal about 2 1/2 inches off the floor. and there must be 'a little' mechanical freeplay at the top of the pedal travel , just 'some'.. like 1/4 to 1/2 inch max. As long as there is 'some',for sure.

Scott

On 4/1/2016 1:17 PM, John Rodgers wrote: > I have a newly installed clutch, but the throw is not right. Press the > clutch pedal and it doesn't disengage until nearly to the floor. The van > will creep if you are not really careful to keep that pedal hard to the > floor. This is very tiring to a shortlegged fellow like me. I'd like to > know how to adjust that up and still getting good clean engagement and > disengagement. > > John > On Apr 1, 2016 17:19, "SDF ( aka ;jim lahey' - Scott )" < > scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote: > >> I see. >> I also like Prolong Transmission Additive .. >> for both manual and auto transmissions. >> >> have had good luck with that for shifting ease on many vanagon transaxles. >> >> Selecting or getting into 1st gear...never an issue that I've seen, >> generally. >> I keep my shift linkage well lubed and adjust if needed. >> >> that plate inside the van, under the rubber boot.. >> two scews on it. >> This is for 'selecting' ..like to make sure the H pattern is working like >> it should. >> To tweak this adjustment, loosen those two screws a little. >> ( having the boot clear off while you sort through this, over several >> drives if neccessary , helps .boot completely removed. Just unscrew the >> shift knob. ) >> >> use a small hammer to make minute adjustments to that plate position. >> it will move left-right, fore-aft, and it will twist. >> It directly affects 'selecting' the gear you want in the Shift Box under >> the front of the van. >> ' >> Regularly, drop the spare tire carrier, pull out the spare, and get yer >> noggin up in there and spray some good lube in that box. >> if I want a thick spray lube..I use motorcylce chain lube in a spary can. >> >> it can be tricky to tell what is external to the trans..like linkage >> ..from the shift knob clear back to the side of the trans .. >> that whole arrangement is well made, but NEEDS Care, which is so super >> easy to do it's silly. >> Hardly anyone ever does much there until there is some issue. >> there is no real reason for shift linkage parts to wear out really. >> >> anyway ..it's decent gear oil, not too full, >> and work over the entire shift linkage carefully ..lubing always, and on >> rare occasion, adjusting as needed. >> those white balls at the base of the shifter..always lube those. >> they can wear allowing the shift lever to drop a little ...which can make >> the reverse 'push-down' feature not work. I even had some plates cut to >> raise the shifter back up a tad to compensate for wear there. >> >> also , good clean , complete clutch Disengagement ..very important. >> Not hard to achieve on a vanagon ..though I do very commonly see details >> overlooked in the entire clutch release mechanism .. >> from the pedal clear to the cross shaft inside the bell housing, including >> pilot bearing area.. >> seen lots of dried up and funky stuff there . This is another area that >> just loves service and lube. >> >> btw ..the Vanagon Hydrucalic Clutch release system, is about the best one >> in all of car-dom...fully self-adjusting forever. Luv it ! >> the one very weak and mickey mouse area is the hole drilled in the clutch >> pedal for a clevis pin on the rod going to clutch master cylinder. >> That spot was lubed with grease forever ago at the factory. It's bare >> metal-to-metal. >> >> the best you can do on that one is spray lube up in their rather blindly. >> if you find excessive clutch pedal freeplay at the top of the pedal >> travel, this spot being worn is probably why. >> And you 'do not' want to ever have to adjust the length of the clutch >> master cylinder push rod. >> That is by far the single hardest adjustment in any Vanagon .. >> purely a struggle and a trial and error deal and just nasty to deal with. >> >> but ..yeah, good clean Full, clutch disengagement too. >> >> Scott >> >> >> On 4/1/2016 11:55 AM, John Rodgers wrote: >> >> It is a shifting issue that causes me to seek MT90 in the first place. No >> manual tranny van I ever drove shifted well into first gear, including my >> first two. I switched to MT 90 and it made HUGE difference.I have the same >> shifting issue with this new transmission and I want to eliminate it from >> the getgo. Thus the push for MT 90 gear oil. >> >> It appears I will have to order it online! >> >> John >> On Apr 1, 2016 14:58, "SDF ( aka ;jim lahey' - Scott )" <scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote: >> >> >> does it say GL4 or GL5 on it ? >> >> google Ultraguard Full-Synthetic 85W90 I think it is. >> that is THE gear oil that German Transaxle swears by, >> and will only warranty their trans if run on that. >> Expensive ...12 bucks a qt easily. >> Worked fine in the transaxles I put it in. >> >> On 4/1/2016 6:54 AM, John Rodgers wrote: >> >> MT90 gear oil use to be available in several places here but all no longer >> carry it. What they do have a Redline V-Twin Tranmission oil for >> motocycles, supposedly offering as good a protection and slipperyness as MT >> 90 but offering more stickability to the gears so the oil stays between the >> gear teeth better, reducing wear. But my question is - is it safe for the >> vanagon manual tranny? Don't know about the effects on the brass sliders. >> >> Opinions? >> >> John >> >> >> >> >> >> >>


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