Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2016 21:49:59 -0600
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From: OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@COMCAST.NET>
Subject: Re: Redline MT90
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John
I was using AmsOil 75w90 TranyLube back in 09 when I put an EJ25 in my 90Westy & 6Mos later I had to have Daryl
build me a Replacement Trany due to a Bad 3-4Slider ~ @ that time Daryl was still feeling OK with using RedLine & so that
is what I put in ~ I ran that for about 15000mi's until Daryl recommended that I dump it & we had several discussions about
what I might switch to ~ I am a BigFan of Valvoline products & after a few discussions with their Techs & Daryls' Blessings on
the decision I started running Valvos' SynPower 75w90 & have been very Happy with it for the past 43000mi's ~ Shifts are
SilkySmooth, even when Cold (they were not with R'L') & the Trany was quieter also ~
I gather that the decision has to do a lot with how much power you have in your Vanagon & how you use it. I've put a
bit shy of 95000mi's on my 90Westy since I acquired it in Jun'06 & the majority of those were with a Canoe on the roof &
some with a RaftTrailer behind & the last 46000 of which have been with an EJ25 below deck. I generally like to drive @ or
slightly over the the speed limit (by no more than 5%) when terrain & winds allow & I also run 235/75r16 tires on the Rear
so I feel that I am usually asking the tranny to do a bunch of work.
The Valvo' SynPower 75w90 is a GL5 & it does have Sulfur in it so before I switched to it I contacted Valvoline & told
them what my application was & was assured that there would be no negative results from using it in my VanagonTrany as
the Sulfur that they use is not damaging to YellowMetals. Since it was many miles back, I don't remember much about the
AmsOil as far as Noise&Shifts go but the Valvoline is very quite & shifts flawlessly no matter what the temperature ( never
yet below 10ºF ~ I missed a -7º test here on 3Feb11 just a week before the change from R'L' to Valvo ). With the RedLine
the 1st few shifts on a "cold" or "cool" start had to be done cautiously to avoid a slight grind.
Bottom line is that Valvo' seems to be doing the job very nicely and I have not, in the past, let the price on a product
have an influence on my decisions & I don't adhere to the old premise that you get what you pay for ( a Timex will give you
pretty much the same T'O'D' as a Rolex ) ~ the fact that the Valvo is considerably cheaper than Ams or R'L' & others is just
FrostingOnTheCake for me.
These are simply my experiences & I'm no expert so continue to do your own research.
ORR ~ DeanB
On 1 Apr , 2016, at 3:55 PM, John Rodgers wrote:
> It is a shifting issue that causes me to seek MT90 in the first place. No
> manual tranny van I ever drove shifted well into first gear, including my
> first two. I switched to MT 90 and it made HUGE difference.I have the same
> shifting issue with this new transmission and I want to eliminate it from
> the getgo. Thus the push for MT 90 gear oil.
>
> It appears I will have to order it online!
>
> John
> On Apr 1, 2016 14:58, "SDF ( aka ;jim lahey' - Scott )" <
> scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:
>
>> does it say GL4 or GL5 on it ?
>>
>> google Ultraguard Full-Synthetic 85W90 I think it is.
>> that is THE gear oil that German Transaxle swears by,
>> and will only warranty their trans if run on that.
>> Expensive ...12 bucks a qt easily.
>> Worked fine in the transaxles I put it in.
>>
>> On 4/1/2016 6:54 AM, John Rodgers wrote:
>>
>> MT90 gear oil use to be available in several places here but all no longer
>> carry it. What they do have a Redline V-Twin Tranmission oil for
>> motocycles, supposedly offering as good a protection and slipperyness as MT
>> 90 but offering more stickability to the gears so the oil stays between the
>> gear teeth better, reducing wear. But my question is - is it safe for the
>> vanagon manual tranny? Don't know about the effects on the brass sliders.
>>
>> Opinions?
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>>
>>
