Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2016 09:24:12 -0600
Reply-To: Jon VonOhlsen <jondvo@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Jon VonOhlsen <jondvo@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Shifting problems -- pilot bearing?
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The photo show the plate that the bushing is bolted to, using 2 bolts.
The bushing is to the right in the photo, if reversed, will lead to
shift problems.
Jon
On 4/6/2016 7:31 PM, Rick Cooper wrote:
> Jon, that's what I was trying to do when I shortened the overall shift
> rod: I loosened the pinch clamp and pushed the two rods (front and rear)
> together. Scott suggests that will not do what I was thinking might be the
> problem: the shift lever was not throwing the shift rod far enough to
> engage the two gears in that same direction, i.e. second and fourth. I'll
> check the adjustment FAQ on the Samba, thanks for the reference.
>
> I'd like to follow up Mark's suggestion, but what is the rear guide bushing
> plate? It's been three months since I put in this tranny so memory is
> likely failing, but I don't recall anything like that. Is it external to
> the tranny or where? Is the idea that it is somehow interfering with the
> shift linkage?
>
> Thanks guys for the help, much appreciated.
>
> Rick
>
> On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 4:35 PM, John Rodgers <jrodgers113@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Scott, thanks for posting about that bearing. I couldn't remember what had
>> to be done - stroke brain - but I knew it was something. This will solve a
>> lot of trouble later.
>>
>> John
>> On Apr 6, 2016 17:57, "SDF ( aka ;jim lahey' - Scott )" <
>> scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Mark's post below is spot on.... for something to make sure is right.
>> It's
>>> an easy mistake to make as the bracket fits on the trans two ways, and
>> only
>>> one way is right.
>>>
>>> fwiw ..that movement of the slpines thing didn't make total sense to me
>> in
>>> the OP's post..that just moves the shift knob closer or further from the
>>> dash.
>>> doesn't really affect shifting ..or shift travel, that much.
>>>
>>> the only 'particulars' about using the DV pilot brg is it sticks out of
>>> the crankshaft a tiny bit, and some clearance needs to be machined in the
>>> centerbore of the waterboxer flywheel on the crankshaft side.
>>>
>>> scott
>>>
>>> On 4/6/2016 11:39 AM, John Rodgers wrote:
>>>
>>> Regards the pilot bearing - I understand that the pilot bearing can be
>>> replaced by using the sealed diesel pilot bearing, thereby never again
>>> having to worry about the felt washer being inplace to keep dirt and grit
>>> out and having the brass ring inside the flywheel to keep the felt washer
>>> in place - the brass that macine shops tend to knock out, lose, and
>> never
>>> replace - leaving your bearing felt to come off and expose it to grit and
>>> dust.
>>>
>>> You might want to look into the particulars of using this diesel bearing.
>>>
>>> John
>>> On Apr 6, 2016 15:12, "vw_van_fan_Mark" <madvws@cox.net> <madvws@cox.net>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> This is usually caused by putting the rear guide bushing plate on the
>>> wrong side of the 2 bolt ears that are on the side of the transmission.
>>> Make sure that plate is on the forward side of those 2 ears.
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>> Rick Cooper wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Finally got back to my '83 project van. I'd replaced the tranny a few
>>> months ago but for unrelated reasons had to leave the project for a few
>>> months. Finally, took it for a test drive today. Initially had problems
>>> finding gears, but much of that was sorted out by following the Bentley's
>>> shift linkage adjustment procedure.
>>>
>>> However, the biggest and unresolved problem is that it simply will not
>>> shift into second or fourth gear. The shift lever simply feels blocked
>>> from accessing second or fourth and if I apply pressure I get the unhappy
>>> sound of gears grinding. I shortened up the shift rod by moving the
>>> front
>>> shift rod further into the splines in the rear shift rod, but that didn't
>>> seem to help. Is this symptomatic of a bad pilot bearing (which I
>> didn't
>>> replace but probably should have) or what?
>>>
>>> Thanks, Rick
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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