Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2016 20:23:11 -0700
Reply-To: Don Hanson <dhanson928@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Don Hanson <dhanson928@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Squealing Radiator Fan Motor
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Oops sorry, they have the liquid cooling system stuff, not the fans....I
like Spal. Racing supply houses...
On Apr 6, 2016 8:17 PM, "Don Hanson" <dhanson928@gmail.com> wrote:
> Google B.A.T. British American transfer.... Or something... They have a
> full line of fans.
> On Apr 6, 2016 7:29 PM, "Richard Koerner" <rjkinpb@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Dennis for the advice....and now you've got my mind working
>> "outside the box". Yep, the universal 16" radiator fan with "some
>> creativity for mounting brackets" seems like a great idea. After all, it's
>> only a fan. Something to suck air in through the radiator. Doesn't have
>> to be a VW fan right? I looked (briefly so far) at replacement fan/motor
>> assemblies for my 85 Vanagon on the web and didn't have too much luck.
>> But yes, somehow mount a fan assembly up in there; I mean, I think you
>> would only need to find some way to attach the thing. Four points ideally,
>> in the corners. Surely most of these radiator fan motors can handle the
>> "low" and "high" electrical currents for the different fan speeds....I
>> mean, most cars are similar methinks.....needs a little or a lot of cooling
>> depending on the situation.
>> So, provide a fan blade of the proper diameter (Dennis says 16") to
>> provide proper airflow, an electric motor, solid mounting, maybe even some
>> sheetmetal or plastic shrouding to enhance airflow, and I think it would
>> work.
>> As these Vanagons age and parts are NLA, we may have to all orient our
>> thinking to alternatives, not obvious at first. Hey, after all...I just
>> put a Subaru motor into my Vanagon with hopes of 20 more years.
>>
>> These last few days, the "squealing" has not re-appeared, but it's
>> probably only a matter of time. But I want this potential problem FIXED.
>> Here at home, not 500 or 1000 or 4000 miles away when its WAY more
>> expensive and difficult.
>> RichSan Diego
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 6:43 PM
>> Subject: Re: Squealing Radiator Fan Motor
>>
>> The squeaking and squealing could be either the bearings or brushes.
>> These motors are not readily serviceable. At 25 to years old these motors
>> owe us nothing. There are some vendors offering replacements. You can also
>> fit a universal 16" radiator fan with some creativity for mounting brackets.
>> Yes the easiest way till have to remove the fan and housing is to lower
>> the radiator. You will have to drain the coolant and disconnect the
>> radiator hoses. Remove the brackets holding the AC hoses on the chassis
>> rail as far back as possible. Then you lower the assembly without
>> disconnecting the AC hoses. As you begin to lower remove the two top screws
>> holding the condenser to the radiator. When it is down far enough tilt the
>> radiator back and the condenser will separate at the bottom. Now you can do
>> what is needed. Reverse to get it back together.
>>
>> Dennis
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
>> Of Richard Koerner
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 7:42 PM
>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>> Subject: Squealing Radiator Fan Motor
>>
>> Lately I've had a couple incidences of squealing from my radiator fan
>> motor. You know, when you are in stop-and-go traffic and the fan comes
>> on. (BTW, just did a cross-country trip from CA to Florida and back and
>> had some heavy rain; maybe water got into the bushings?) I figured I would
>> lower spare tire carrier and take a look, maybe spray in some lubricant on
>> shaft bushings. But it all looks pretty closed up on the motor, no readily
>> available access points (which I think is a good thing for this electric
>> motor in a wet environment); not sure how to address this.
>> And to get the motor out, looks like removal of radiator and A/C
>> condenser would be required.
>> I did a search of the archives, and didn't get any help.
>> Any ideas on how to proceed? That is, how do I lubricate radiator fan
>> motor?
>>
>> RichSan Diego
>>
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