Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 19:25:33 +0000
Reply-To: Jim Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Jim Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: And what should arrive in my inbox this morning from Banggood
but this magnetic offer
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After finally resorting to wood glue to affix my interior covering
permanently to my interior, I would never again trust a sticky adhesive
100%. In thread we trust.
: )
Jim
On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 2:17 PM Richard Koerner <rjkinpb@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
> Maybe you could do the whole thing without any sewing at all?
>
> Consider laying the duct tape/magnet sandwich strip adjacent to the fabric
> edge. Add a 3rd strip of duct tape to form a lap joint over the two
> pieces. Then flip over the assembly, and add a 4th strip of duct tape; use
> a roller or rub/squeeze with fingers in an attempt to get some of the 3rd
> and 4th strip to adhere to each other even slightly through the mesh of the
> fabric.
>
> If you desired additional stiffness, a strip of box strapping could be
> laid down before adding the lap joint pieces.
>
> Duct tape, at least the good stuff, is pretty aggressive in it's bond
> strength to clean materials.
>
> Seems of course that you should try whatever method you use on a 1 foot
> trial piece to get the hang of it.
>
> Rich
> San Diego
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Jim Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM>
> *To:* vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 13, 2016 11:57 AM
>
> *Subject:* Re: And what should arrive in my inbox this morning from
> Banggood but this magnetic offer
>
> I will probably try this as well, it is a good idea. These magnets are so
> small that you could probably fold a piece of duct tape in half. Two
> things: 1, you don't want to sew through duct tape or any other adhesive
> very far as you will spend way more time cleaning your machine and fixing
> the thread and sewing as the adhesive accumulates on the needle and goes
> under the cloth to the bobbin. Ask me how I know.
>
> Secondly, the duct tape may not (or may) have enough stiffness to do the
> job. Even it it didn't by itself, you could probably sew a piece of box
> strapping in behind the duct tape and magnets to give it a little spring.
> Which, for all I know at this point, it may not really need.
>
> Jim
>
> On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 1:51 PM Richard Koerner <rjkinpb@sbcglobal.net>
> wrote:
>
> > As you were describing your design, an idea popped into my head:
> >
> > You could lay down a strip of 2" wide duct tape, sticky side up, but
> stuck
> > down on tabletop at the ends with additional tape. Place the magnets in
> a
> > row at 1" spacing....hopefully the adhesion to the duct tape will keep
> them
> > from jumping over to each other. When all magnets are installed, place a
> > second strip of duct tape sticky side down over the first piece of duct
> > tape, thus capturing each magnet in it's own little compartment. A
> > sandwich. Then trim the assembly to maybe 1" wide so it's nice and neat.
> > Now this assembly can be laid into the hem of fabric and the stitching
> goes
> > through the edges of the duct tape sandwich.
> >
> > The duct tape sandwich assembly should give a little rigidity yet at the
> > same time provide flexibility so that the fabric can be rolled up or
> folded.
> >
> > Just an idea.
> >
> > Rich
> > San Diego
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > *From:* Jim Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM>
> > *To:* vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 13, 2016 11:35 AM
> > *Subject:* Re: And what should arrive in my inbox this morning from
>
> > Banggood but this magnetic offer
> >
> > Here's what I have in mind, subject to change as other parties actually
> > think this through for me:
> >
> > 1. it is going to take a bunch of these little magnets, but that is what
> I
> > want, their power times hundreds.
> >
> > 2. The magnets must be separate somehow. If they touch or clump, even
> after
> > being sewn in to individual pockets of cloth, that will not keep the
> cloth
> > from doubling over and over as the magnets find each other. Therefore,
> >
> > 3. I intend to glue the magnets down with hot glue, say, to a flexible
> > strip of plastic, some strapping tape, say, about an inch apart.
> >
> > 4. I will wrap the flexible but very strong magnetic strip in cloth and
> sew
> > it closed with a zipper foot, allowing enough left over to sew this strip
> > to the usual vinyl edging into which the screen is sewn. It is a plus
> that
> > the magnets are small enough to pass under a sewing foot if they have to.
> >
> > 5. I am contemplating different approaches to an entryway, I guess two
> > pieces with an overlap in the middle will do for a first pass.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 12:55 PM Steve Williams <
> > steve@williamsitconsulting.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Oh my heck!
> > >
> > > I don't have the patience to work with something THAT small... that
> > > wants to stick to anything metal! lol.
> > >
> > > Good to know they are out there though :)
> > >
> > > Thanks for sharing!
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Steve W.
> > >
> > > On 13/04/2016 10:35 AM, Karl Ploessl wrote:
> > > > if the description is correct, they are tiny: Diameter: 3mm(±0.1mm)
> > > > Height: 1mm(±0.1mm). So 500 seems to be right
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 12:23 PM, Steve Williams
> > > > <steve@williamsitconsulting.com
> > > > <mailto:steve@williamsitconsulting.com>> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Is that price $4.00 USD for 500 of them? That doesn't make sense
> to
> > > > me... but $4.00 / magnet seems expensive, but perhaps not?
> > > >
> > > > How many do you think it will take for the bug screen? This is
> > > > something I'm really interested in doing as well.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Steve W.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 13/04/2016 9:26 AM, Jim Felder wrote:
> > > >
> > > > A way to follow up something I have wanted to do for years,
> > > > create an
> > > > all-magnetic bug screen for the sliding door. These aggressive
> > > > little
> > > > magnets ought to do the job! Anyway, the price is right and
> > > > they are on
> > > > order. Once glued to a flexible plastic tape/strap (so they
> > > > won't stick to
> > > > each other) and sewn into edging for the netting, I'll bet
> > > > they will work.
> > > >
> > > > <
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.banggood.com/500x-Disc-Rare-Earth-Neodymium-Super-Strong-Fridge-Magnets-N35-3x1m-Craft-Model-p-1042903.html?utm_design=41&utm_source=emarsys&utm_medium=Mail_mailad233_dealalert&utm_campaign=newsletter-emarsys&utm_content=Winna≻_src=email_1791754≻_eh=21b49b9fb0df57d91≻_llid=631316≻_lid=80505949≻_uid=GEFGGfoQpi&emst=GEFGGfoQpi_631316_1791754_128
> > <
> http://www.banggood.com/500x-Disc-Rare-Earth-Neodymium-Super-Strong-Fridge-Magnets-N35-3x1m-Craft-Model-p-1042903.html?utm_design=41&utm_source=emarsys&utm_medium=Mail_mailad233_dealalert&utm_campaign=newsletter-emarsys&utm_content=Winna≻_src=email_1791754≻_eh=21b49b9fb0df57d91≻_llid=631316≻_lid=80505949≻_uid=GEFGGfoQpi&emst=GEFGGfoQpi_631316_1791754_128
> <http://www.banggood.com/500x-Disc-Rare-Earth-Neodymium-Super-Strong-Fridge-Magnets-N35-3x1m-Craft-Model-p-1042903.html?utm_design=41&utm_source=emarsys&utm_medium=Mail_mailad233_dealalert&utm_campaign=newsletter-emarsys&utm_content=Winna&sc_src=email_1791754&sc_eh=21b49b9fb0df57d91&sc_llid=631316&sc_lid=80505949&sc_uid=GEFGGfoQpi&emst=GEFGGfoQpi_631316_1791754_128>
> >
> > > >
> > > > Jim
> > > >
> > > >
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