Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 12:48:20 -0700
Reply-To: Alistair Bel <albell@SHAW.CA>
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From: Alistair Bel <albell@SHAW.CA>
Subject: Re: And what should arrive in my inbox this morning from Banggood
but this magnetic offer
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I'm a little sceptical that those teeny magnets will have the flux density ( doesn't that sound smart?) to hold screens secure. Even with a bunch of them. I don't think the field of such a thin magnet will extend very far at all.
Alistair
> On Apr 13, 2016, at 11:57 AM, Jim Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
> I will probably try this as well, it is a good idea. These magnets are so
> small that you could probably fold a piece of duct tape in half. Two
> things: 1, you don't want to sew through duct tape or any other adhesive
> very far as you will spend way more time cleaning your machine and fixing
> the thread and sewing as the adhesive accumulates on the needle and goes
> under the cloth to the bobbin. Ask me how I know.
>
> Secondly, the duct tape may not (or may) have enough stiffness to do the
> job. Even it it didn't by itself, you could probably sew a piece of box
> strapping in behind the duct tape and magnets to give it a little spring.
> Which, for all I know at this point, it may not really need.
>
> Jim
>
> On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 1:51 PM Richard Koerner <rjkinpb@sbcglobal.net>
> wrote:
>
>> As you were describing your design, an idea popped into my head:
>>
>> You could lay down a strip of 2" wide duct tape, sticky side up, but stuck
>> down on tabletop at the ends with additional tape. Place the magnets in a
>> row at 1" spacing....hopefully the adhesion to the duct tape will keep them
>> from jumping over to each other. When all magnets are installed, place a
>> second strip of duct tape sticky side down over the first piece of duct
>> tape, thus capturing each magnet in it's own little compartment. A
>> sandwich. Then trim the assembly to maybe 1" wide so it's nice and neat.
>> Now this assembly can be laid into the hem of fabric and the stitching goes
>> through the edges of the duct tape sandwich.
>>
>> The duct tape sandwich assembly should give a little rigidity yet at the
>> same time provide flexibility so that the fabric can be rolled up or folded.
>>
>> Just an idea.
>>
>> Rich
>> San Diego
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Jim Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM>
>> *To:* vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 13, 2016 11:35 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: And what should arrive in my inbox this morning from
>> Banggood but this magnetic offer
>>
>> Here's what I have in mind, subject to change as other parties actually
>> think this through for me:
>>
>> 1. it is going to take a bunch of these little magnets, but that is what I
>> want, their power times hundreds.
>>
>> 2. The magnets must be separate somehow. If they touch or clump, even after
>> being sewn in to individual pockets of cloth, that will not keep the cloth
>> from doubling over and over as the magnets find each other. Therefore,
>>
>> 3. I intend to glue the magnets down with hot glue, say, to a flexible
>> strip of plastic, some strapping tape, say, about an inch apart.
>>
>> 4. I will wrap the flexible but very strong magnetic strip in cloth and sew
>> it closed with a zipper foot, allowing enough left over to sew this strip
>> to the usual vinyl edging into which the screen is sewn. It is a plus that
>> the magnets are small enough to pass under a sewing foot if they have to.
>>
>> 5. I am contemplating different approaches to an entryway, I guess two
>> pieces with an overlap in the middle will do for a first pass.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 12:55 PM Steve Williams <
>> steve@williamsitconsulting.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Oh my heck!
>>>
>>> I don't have the patience to work with something THAT small... that
>>> wants to stick to anything metal! lol.
>>>
>>> Good to know they are out there though :)
>>>
>>> Thanks for sharing!
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Steve W.
>>>
>>>> On 13/04/2016 10:35 AM, Karl Ploessl wrote:
>>>> if the description is correct, they are tiny: Diameter: 3mm(±0.1mm)
>>>> Height: 1mm(±0.1mm). So 500 seems to be right
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 12:23 PM, Steve Williams
>>>> <steve@williamsitconsulting.com
>>>> <mailto:steve@williamsitconsulting.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Is that price $4.00 USD for 500 of them? That doesn't make sense to
>>>> me... but $4.00 / magnet seems expensive, but perhaps not?
>>>>
>>>> How many do you think it will take for the bug screen? This is
>>>> something I'm really interested in doing as well.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Steve W.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 13/04/2016 9:26 AM, Jim Felder wrote:
>>>>
>>>> A way to follow up something I have wanted to do for years,
>>>> create an
>>>> all-magnetic bug screen for the sliding door. These aggressive
>>>> little
>>>> magnets ought to do the job! Anyway, the price is right and
>>>> they are on
>>>> order. Once glued to a flexible plastic tape/strap (so they
>>>> won't stick to
>>>> each other) and sewn into edging for the netting, I'll bet
>>>> they will work.
>>>>
>>>> <
>> http://www.banggood.com/500x-Disc-Rare-Earth-Neodymium-Super-Strong-Fridge-Magnets-N35-3x1m-Craft-Model-p-1042903.html?utm_design=41&utm_source=emarsys&utm_medium=Mail_mailad233_dealalert&utm_campaign=newsletter-emarsys&utm_content=Winna≻_src=email_1791754≻_eh=21b49b9fb0df57d91≻_llid=631316≻_lid=80505949≻_uid=GEFGGfoQpi&emst=GEFGGfoQpi_631316_1791754_128
>> <http://www.banggood.com/500x-Disc-Rare-Earth-Neodymium-Super-Strong-Fridge-Magnets-N35-3x1m-Craft-Model-p-1042903.html?utm_design=41&utm_source=emarsys&utm_medium=Mail_mailad233_dealalert&utm_campaign=newsletter-emarsys&utm_content=Winna&sc_src=email_1791754&sc_eh=21b49b9fb0df57d91&sc_llid=631316&sc_lid=80505949&sc_uid=GEFGGfoQpi&emst=GEFGGfoQpi_631316_1791754_128>
>>>>
>>>> Jim
>>
>>
>>
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