Date: Sun, 8 May 2016 15:52:00 -0700
Reply-To: Jim Arnott <jrasite@EONI.COM>
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From: Jim Arnott <jrasite@EONI.COM>
Subject: Re: hankook ra-08 copies
In-Reply-To: <C6F2FB28-7EF0-4BC5-ADE7-46C392860E9D@gmail.com>
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185/70R14 & 195/70R14 are not the proper SIZE. Look at the 205/70R14 98H XL which IS the correct size and load range.
Vanagon & Camper
1984-1991
185R14C 6PR
- Min Load Index 99
- Max Load 1710 lbs
- Min Load Range C
- Max Inflation 55 psi
*205/70R14 97R
- Min Load Index 97
- Max Load 1580 lbs
- Max Inflation 40 psi
* Reinforced Sidewall Passenger car tire
Syncro Vanagon & Camper
1986-1991
185R14C 6PR
- Min Load Index 99
- Max Load 1710 lbs
- Min Load Range C
- Max Inflation 55psi
205R14C 6PR/8PR
- Min Load Index 109
- Max Load 2270 lbs
- Min Load Range D
- Max Inflation 65psi
*205/70R14 97R
- Min Load Index 97
- Max Load 1580 lbs
- Max Inflation 40psi
* Reinforced Sidewall Passenger car tire
Goform G520 - 205/70R14 98H XL
Technical Information
Width: 205 mm
Profile: 70%
Rim: 14" (355,6 mm)
Wall Height: 143,5 mm
Outside Diameter: 642,6 mm
Standard Rim Width: 6 inches
Rim Width Range: 5.5-7 inches
Speed Rating: H 210 km/h 130 m/h
Load Range: 98 750 kg 1653 pounds
Extra Load (XL): Yes
Tread: Symmetrical
Directional?: No
UTQG: 320AA
Treadwear: 320
Traction: A
Temperature: A
http://www.tireshot.com/tire-profile.php?tire_id=9513
I bought a set based on Don’s recommendation. I couldn’t be happier.
Jim
> On May 8, 2016, at 6:50 AM, jondvo@GMAIL.COM wrote:
>
> The Go Form tired don't have the proper load range is what I meant
>
> Sent from a rotary phone
>
>> On May 7, 2016, at 9:22 AM, Don Hanson <dhanson928@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> "A real tire"?... Like perhaps 50% of the still new looking used Michelin tires I've seen come my way recently? <(Sarcastic) With the tread bulges and separations? I've given up on Michelin..
>>
>> I don't advocate the Go Form brand or any particular tire from them, just passing on my own experience with these, in answer to a query.
>> DH
>>
>>
>>
>>> On May 7, 2016 7:43 AM, "Jon VonOhlsen" <jondvo@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> The GoForm G520 185 or 195r14 tire has a load index of 86(195) or 88(185), or a capacity of about 1250#. I'll stick with a real tire...unless there is some other version from Tires Easy.
>>> Jon
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 5/7/2016 8:23 AM, Don Hanson wrote:
>>>> I, too, was skeptical when I bought a pair of these to make it home from
>>>> the desert one spring...being short of cash, though, I had no choice.
>>>>
>>>> They've surprised me by consistently performing just as well as the
>>>> higher priced tires they claim to have copied... Thanks to Ron for taking
>>>> the time to look up the back round info.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, May 7, 2016 at 6:41 AM, The Bus Depot <vanagon@busdepot.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> what is the name and where can you
>>>>>> get the chinese copies of the hankook tires?
>>>>>> Go Form
>>>>> I looked into this claim after it was repeated here several times (by the
>>>>> same individual, I believe). I also spoke to Hankook about it. The GoForms
>>>>> come from a company called Qingdao Gloryred International Trade Company,
>>>>> whose advertising headline is trade publications is (not kidding) "Sell
>>>>> cheap tyre." Qingdao Gloryred has no affiliation whatsoever with Hankook.
>>>>> Hankook has not shared any technology with them or licensed any technology
>>>>> to them. Their claim of using "Hankook technology" is based solely on the
>>>>> fact that their technical engineer used to work for Hankook. Given that
>>>>> employees often change jobs, by that standard almost any company could
>>>>> claim a connection to any other company. It is not uncommon for off-brand
>>>>> Chinese companies to make false claims of affiliation with or endorsement
>>>>> by name brands in order to lend legitimacy to their products. For example
>>>>> there are several other off-brand Chinese companies that claim to use
>>>>> "Michelin technology" but have no actual connection with Michelin. Laws
>>>>> against false advertising are not the same in China. Interestingly, these
>>>>> companies don't make those claims in the U.S., where they would be forced
>>>>> to retract them immediately.
>>>>>
>>>>> Consumer Reports tested several off-brand Chinese tires (although not
>>>>> GoForms) a couple of years ago and found that they all performed at the
>>>>> absolute bottom of the pack for safety and for lifespan, even though some
>>>>> had copied the tread pattern of better known tires. They interviewed
>>>>> Clarence Ditlow, executive director of the Center for Auto Safety, who
>>>>> explained this disparity by pointing out that “the composition of the tire
>>>>> is more important than the mold.” In other words you can make the tread
>>>>> look the same cosmetically, but if the rubber compound is different, it's a
>>>>> different tire. The tires they checked were also "iffy" in other ways, such
>>>>> as using counterfeit date codes on the sidewall. Consumer Reports - whose
>>>>> goal is to find bargains and "best buys" - concluded by advising its
>>>>> readers to stick with the name brands, which were actually better bargains
>>>>> in the long run even just based on treadwear alone.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have not tried the GoForm tire so I can't comment on it specifically.
>>>>> For all I know it may be a decent cheap tire on its own merits. But it has
>>>>> no more connection to a Hankook RA08 than any other cheap Chinese tires
>>>>> does, except perhaps skin-deep.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ron Salmon
>>>>> The Bus Depot, Inc.
>>>>> www.busdepot.com
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