Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 19:34:02 -0300
Reply-To: Roy Nicholl <RNicholl@NBNET.NB.CA>
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From: Roy Nicholl <RNicholl@NBNET.NB.CA>
Subject: Re: Border Crossing USA to Canada
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If you are Canadian, both sides seem to “presume” you will be returning home ;-)
> On 23-May-2016, at 15:00, Stephen Engel <sengel543@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
>
> So, I'm self-employed, own my home outright, and don't go to school. How do I prove that I just want to return home?
>
> On Monday, May 23, 2016 12:04 PM, Roger Whittaker <rogerwhitt1@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
>
> dear border letter
>
> yes a letter from employer waiting for your return -
> lease, mortgage or rental documents - or school admission letters
> demonstrate your intention to return to the country of your origin -
> one more detail -
> the results of 9 11 and other similar events was not a change in law or
> policy - the actual rules of border crossing have not "changed" since -
> well since around wwii - what has changed is the enforcement procedures -
> stuff that had fallen into the general who cares bucket is now at top of
> list -
> if anything it has become easier to cross border with advancement of
> technology as many questions are now answered with technology but the
> fundamentals stay the same -
> who are you - where are you going - anything that we normally do not allow
> our citizens to have on your person - whats the purpose of your trip - what
> routes are you planning to travel - any piles of cash with you - do you
> have sufficient resources at hand to mitigate unforeseen circumstances -
> when will you be planning to leave - and anything you would like to declare
> -
>
> one afternoon i was at a border crossing to welcome my inlaws into canada -
> they had a trailer load of tuff for us so they had some paperwork to deal
> with - while we waited for them to arrive we sat on the sidelines cause you
> are not allowed to even have conversation in that area - no touching etc --
> two young girls came in and behind them two guys one had loads of tats on
> his bare arms - thy all stood at the cafe style forms table in the centre
> of the room and several time a CBS agent would stop and ask them a
> question - if i recall rightly a form was being filled out by one - she may
> have just been playing with it - anyway guy with tats was requested to
> attend the counter - the girls were asked to sit in chairs near us -
> then Tats was asked to go to a little room to one side for "payment " of
> some sort of fee as soon as he entered that room a flank of CSB literally
> materialized out of the floor -- lining the path back to the counter - the
> door opened and he stepped out - his hands were now zipped tied behind him
> and he was marched to the other side of the hall into another walled off
> area - the girls stood up and opened mouths to protest then sat back down
> mouth s still agape - the flank vanished in the same silent way it
> materialized --
> I am unsure how i learned this but it would seem they picked him up
> somewhere along the highway - he was a fugitive and etc etc etc - the
> officers then told the girls they were free to continue their journey -
> welcome back to canada etc -- it would be my guess they were soon hailed by
> a friendly customer service rep of her majesty known locally as RCMP --
> Immediately everyone went back to normal duties -- my point is - you have
> no idea what sort of day your agent is having when you arrive at the gates
> for entry - yesterday they may have shot three people - 1/2 hour ago they
> may have caught the most wanted ever - or the least wanted -
> a border agent does not operate under the same laws and procedures as
> regular police - they have a wide latitude of discretion and they do not
> have to tell you any reason they are questioning you or why they are
> detaining you - the fact you want to enter the country is sufficient reason
> to detain if they decide that is the reason -
>
> regards
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