Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 09:03:33 -0700
Reply-To: Roger Whittaker <rogerwhitt1@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Roger Whittaker <rogerwhitt1@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Border Crossing USA to Canada
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dear border letter
yes a letter from employer waiting for your return -
lease, mortgage or rental documents - or school admission letters
demonstrate your intention to return to the country of your origin -
one more detail -
the results of 9 11 and other similar events was not a change in law or
policy - the actual rules of border crossing have not "changed" since -
well since around wwii - what has changed is the enforcement procedures -
stuff that had fallen into the general who cares bucket is now at top of
list -
if anything it has become easier to cross border with advancement of
technology as many questions are now answered with technology but the
fundamentals stay the same -
who are you - where are you going - anything that we normally do not allow
our citizens to have on your person - whats the purpose of your trip - what
routes are you planning to travel - any piles of cash with you - do you
have sufficient resources at hand to mitigate unforeseen circumstances -
when will you be planning to leave - and anything you would like to declare
-
one afternoon i was at a border crossing to welcome my inlaws into canada -
they had a trailer load of tuff for us so they had some paperwork to deal
with - while we waited for them to arrive we sat on the sidelines cause you
are not allowed to even have conversation in that area - no touching etc --
two young girls came in and behind them two guys one had loads of tats on
his bare arms - thy all stood at the cafe style forms table in the centre
of the room and several time a CBS agent would stop and ask them a
question - if i recall rightly a form was being filled out by one - she may
have just been playing with it - anyway guy with tats was requested to
attend the counter - the girls were asked to sit in chairs near us -
then Tats was asked to go to a little room to one side for "payment " of
some sort of fee as soon as he entered that room a flank of CSB literally
materialized out of the floor -- lining the path back to the counter - the
door opened and he stepped out - his hands were now zipped tied behind him
and he was marched to the other side of the hall into another walled off
area - the girls stood up and opened mouths to protest then sat back down
mouth s still agape - the flank vanished in the same silent way it
materialized --
I am unsure how i learned this but it would seem they picked him up
somewhere along the highway - he was a fugitive and etc etc etc - the
officers then told the girls they were free to continue their journey -
welcome back to canada etc -- it would be my guess they were soon hailed by
a friendly customer service rep of her majesty known locally as RCMP --
Immediately everyone went back to normal duties -- my point is - you have
no idea what sort of day your agent is having when you arrive at the gates
for entry - yesterday they may have shot three people - 1/2 hour ago they
may have caught the most wanted ever - or the least wanted -
a border agent does not operate under the same laws and procedures as
regular police - they have a wide latitude of discretion and they do not
have to tell you any reason they are questioning you or why they are
detaining you - the fact you want to enter the country is sufficient reason
to detain if they decide that is the reason -
regards
On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 12:09 AM, <mfmagnani@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> All good points. But I don't fully understand item 7. Why would I need a
> letter from my employer, or mortgage documents? Maybe to prove that I'll be
> going back home to the US?
> Thanks,
> Mike M
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On May 22, 2016, at 7:55 PM, Roger Whittaker <rogerwhitt1@GMAIL.COM>
> wrote:
> >
> > 10Dear Border
> >
> > i have much to say about crossing both ways
> > 1. have your passports ready and out -
> > 2. if traveling with pets of any nature have letters from vet saying pets
> > are a1
> > 3. cage up pets prior to border crossing and tell customer service
> > representatives of her majesty or the flag that pets are onboard -
> > 4. Pkged animal food purchased in canada is not allowed to travel to usa
> > 5. citrus purchased in canada is not allowed to travel to usa no matter
> > where it originated
> > 6. Firearms are allowed in canada if declared and properly pkged the
> rules
> > are on the CBS site (canada Border Services not tv network)
> > 7. have paperwork with you such as letter from employer - mortgage docs
> or
> > rental docs -lease docs
> > 8. items you are bringing into the country need a list - and value - same
> > on the way out
> > 9. stop about a mile from border and have a piss and void and all that
> > stuff - do not consume anymore fluids til across (there are no bathrooms
> > open to the public at border
> > 10.I will tell a story about germany here - this i listened to on late
> > night radio - it would seem the german police sit on the german side of
> the
> > border shared with netherlands - when a car with german plates enters the
> > roadway - clearly coming from netherlands the german poilce pull over and
> > search - they almost always find products which are legal in holland and
> > against the law in germany - --
> > 11. be respectful of the person who is in the booth or at the counter
> where
> > you cross the border - they do not like jokes or stupid shit
> > 12. Gifts for your canadian or american friends are to remain unwrapped
> > until the Customer service representaives of her majesty or the flag give
> > you the go ahead
> > 13. if you have large sum of cash money in your van - declare it either
> way
> > - best to know exact amount -
> > 14. they may or may not have dogs on the job and the Ross Reblegati may
> or
> > may not work -
> > 15. the border is not a court of law - unless asked they really do not
> care
> > what your "reasons" are that you are not laying according to rules
> > 16. The boarder between any two countries is actually abit of a grey area
> > where there is no citizen ship until allowed to pass
> > usa in canada is alien - canada in usa is alien - neither have rights in
> > the country of the other and no one has rights at the border - your
> rights
> > at the border are to do as requested by the customer service
> representative
> > - More to the point - both USA and Canada are operating in various
> theatres
> > of war around the world and some passage of time long forgotten by you
> may
> > be the most dominate part of canadian or usa border agents question
> period
> > -
> > every time board a plane in the last ten years i am swabbed for gun
> powder
> > which is funny cause i do not own or operate fire arms on a regular
> basis -
> > upon further investigation i see they issue airline tickets for me as
> > Rogerian - my name is actually Roger Ian - so you figure out where the
> > mistake is an fix it - i have no time and simply show my corporate
> disdain
> > for the actions of willfully ignorant TSA
> >
> > 17. I have been questioned at the border in both directions - to severe
> > intensity - had my wallet emptied right down to the dust as they searched
> > for some sort of unlawful products based on my home address - had the
> > sliding door rendered inoperable because the "agent " broke the key off
> in
> > the lock - hey bud the door was not locked - but i think i will keep my
> > council as i know i am a guest in the country -
> > 18. no matter how long you plan to be out take your passport - even if
> down
> > to the counter for directions or a map or snow cone - always have your
> > passport -
> > papers please is not just a scene from the sound of music -
> >
> > have fun -
> > eh
> > regards
> >
> >
> >> On Sun, May 22, 2016 at 3:56 PM, WILLIAM WITZ <pbwitz@sbcglobal.net>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> In a few weeks my wife and I are going camping up North. I was looking
> for
> >> advice regarding my E-code lamps that I got from Bus Depot. I installed
> 80
> >> to 100 watt bulbs. Is that going to be a problem for us? The bulbs are
> >> aimed correctly so as to not blind anyone.
> >> We are going to Jasper and Lake Louise then back down to the states and
> >> Glacier. Any must see places along the route? We are taking 5 up and
> return
> >> on 93 to Calgary if we do not hit a lot of bad weather. Can you
> recommend
> >> any Good repair shops along the way. We are going to take it easy and
> not
> >> flog the van hopefully we will not have any problem. It is running
> sweetly
> >> now. Thanks in advance.Bill Witz 84 Westy TiicoP.S.The last time were in
> >> Canada was before 9-11.
> >
> >
> >
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