Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 18:05:59 -0300
Reply-To: Roy Nicholl <RNicholl@NBNET.NB.CA>
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From: Roy Nicholl <RNicholl@NBNET.NB.CA>
Subject: Re: Speedometer question
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Neil:
I’m pretty sure, mine is just odometer shaft shift. I “lovingly” slapped the lefthand side of the console today and appear to have temporarily knocked things back into place ;-)
> On 02-Jun-2016, at 17:06, Neil N <musomuso@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
> I managed to get some more use out of a screeching speedometer by lubing
> the shaft and bushing magnetic drive piece rides on. One could get some
> light mineral oil at that point and possible at point where needle seats
> without taking speedometer apart.... I think.
> I also re lubed the gears.
>
> A bunch of pictures of a speedometer I messed around with here
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/musomuso/1985VanagonTransporterSpeedometerGuts
>
> And here
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/musomuso/1982Or83DieselSpeedometerClipOnCableType
>
> On Wednesday, June 1, 2016, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','d23haynes57@hotmail.com');>> wrote:
>
>> You can do some repair on the odometer without pulling the needle. Usually
>> when a shaft comes out it is due to one of the gears being cracked or just
>> heat damaged enough to lose the press fit which at that point you need to
>> be
>> really good with super glue or get new gears. The bouncing could just be
>> bad
>> cable. Screeching and other noises is a worn out speedo head.
>>
>> Dennis
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
>> Roy Nicholl
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2016 9:26 PM
>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>> Subject: Re: Speedometer question
>>
>> Speedometer still works (a little bouncy in the 30 - 50K range). Provided
>> I do not break the needle during surgery on the odometer, it should be
>> fine.
>>
>>
>>> On 01-Jun-2016, at 22:21, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Don't forget the magnet set operating the speedometer needle.
>>>
>>> Dennis
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Roy Nicholl
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2016 9:19 PM
>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>> Subject: Re: Speedometer question
>>>
>>> Dennis:
>>>
>>> That makes complete sense, but it should only require the drive gear in
>> the
>>> odometer to be a different size, the rest could be common components.
>> Of
>>> course, it is most probable that the drive gear which has come free
>>> and/or failed.
>>>
>>>> On 01-Jun-2016, at 22:12, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The biggest difference is the speed the cable operates at. On the
>>>> Vanagon the cable is driven directly off the tire so the cable is
>>>> turned at the speed of the tire. On all the front drive VW's and
>>>> vanagon Syncros the cable is driven off a gear set driven by the
>>>> final drive. Usually it is some great ratio greater than actual wheel
>> speed.
>>>> On the Syncro is almost double. I don't recall the ratios for the
>>>> other VW. There is a number at the bottom of the speedometer face
>>> indicates the revolutions per mile or kilometer.
>>>>
>>>> Dennis
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
>>>> Behalf Of Roy Nicholl
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2016 3:08 PM
>>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>>> Subject: Speedometer question
>>>>
>>>> Last evening as I was hurrying the Hyena along (125kph) to a dinner
>>>> appointment (we were late) the odometer decided it was tired (at only
>>>> 218,799 kms) and it now sounds like theres a gear slipping internally.
>>> The
>>>> trip meter is still running fine. The three rightmost digits have
>>> recessed
>>>> back into the odometer body, so I suspect the shaft has slid out of
>>>> the gear.
>>>>
>>>> I dislike taking that brittle plastic apart, but it is time to fix
>>>> the odometer.
>>>>
>>>> In the event I get in there and it is more serious than just the
>>>> shaft sliding out of place, what are the differences between the
>>>> Jetta/Golf MKI
>>> or
>>>> MKII odometer and the one from the T25? From the front, they look
>>>> identical. I have an old MkI speedometer/odometer and wanted to know
>>>> if I can raid it for parts (speedometer needle is broken or I would
>>>> try swapping it in).
>>>>
>>>> Roy
>>
>
>
> --
> Neil n
>
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