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Date:         Thu, 7 Jul 2016 12:34:49 -0700
Reply-To:     "Fuzzy :philippe" <fuzzmeister@GMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         "Fuzzy :philippe" <fuzzmeister@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: HELP: Engine stopped
Comments: To: Roy Nicholl <RNicholl@nbnet.nb.ca>
In-Reply-To:  <76B21FB1-400D-48CC-9C52-1C26CE3E493E@NBNET.NB.CA>
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Yep, pointing more and more towards the coil.

Also seems like keeping the ignition on makes it not start after 5m. But with ignition off it starts after 5min. On Jul 7, 2016 12:28 PM, "Roy Nicholl" <RNicholl@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

> Phillippe: > > Jim is correct - it’s one or the other. If you are seeing no power on #4 > to the distributor, I would suspect an over-heating/failing coil. If you > are simply seeing no pulse … then the Hall sensor/sender would be suspect. > I’ve had a coil fail with similar behaviour to what you are experiencing - > when it became too hot. Thus far my hall sensor is fine - though I’ve > been told they fail more frequently than coils. > > > > > On 07-Jul-2016, at 16:11, Fuzzy :philippe <fuzzmeister@GMAIL.COM> wrote: > > > > Definitely have power to terminal 15. > > > > Seems like waiting 5-10m allows me to restart and drive a few minutes, > then > > engine dies again. > > > > Interesting note: when engine is about to die, pressing accelerator does > > nothing until floored, and then I hear the engine rev up only then. And > at > > the same time engine rpm needle on dashboard is at zero and doesn't move. > > Then engine dies. > > > > Going to try to make it home 2min at a time. > > > > I have the wrong multimeter (not precise enough). > > > > Any extra thoughts based on the above notes appreciated! > > On Jul 7, 2016 12:02 PM, "Jim Felder" <jim.felder@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Bad Hall sensor or bad coil. Rare coil failure but I have had several > with > > a break in the windings that will expand when hot and stop the car. > > > > Jim > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 1:55 PM Roy Nicholl <RNicholl@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote: > > > >> Phillip: > >> > >> Primary (#1 & #15): 0.5Ω - 0.8Ω > >> Secondary (#1 & #4): 2.5kΩ - 3.5kΩ or 7kΩ to 8kΩ (upper bound may be a > >> little higher) > >> > >> If your coil is outside theses ranges, then it may be time to get the > >> spare out from under the bench. > >> > >> Check to be certain you still have power to #15 when you are not getting > >> spark. > >> > >> > >>> On 07-Jul-2016, at 15:42, Roy Nicholl <RNicholl@NBNet.nb.ca> wrote: > >>> > >>> Ooops …. those are kila-ohms on the secondary (HT) circuit … put your > >> meter into the right rage. > >>> > >>>> On 07-Jul-2016, at 15:40, Roy Nicholl <RNicholl@NBNet.nb.ca> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Going by memory here: > >>>> > >>>> Primary circuit: > >>>> #15 is live (low voltage side) > >>>> #1 is switched ground (tach signal) > >>>> > >>>> You should have 0.5 - 0.8 (or 0.9) ohms across here > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> The HT circuit is between 1 and wire to distributer (#4?): You should > >> measure either ~2.5 - 3.5 Ohms or ~7 - 8ohms, depending on the > generation > >> of your coil … one is green the other grey … I cannot remember which is > >> which. > >>>> > >>>> Make certain you disconnected the coil completely before measuring > >> resistance! > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> On 07-Jul-2016, at 15:17, Fuzzy :philippe <fuzzmeister@GMAIL.COM> > >> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Engine just died while idling in a parking lot. Zero resistance > > between > >>>>> terminals 1 and 15 > >>>>> On Jul 7, 2016 11:03 AM, "Roy Nicholl" <RNicholl@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Centre ignition wire …. you mean from the coil to the distributor? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Start working backwards … is the coil failing? When there is no > >> spark … > >>>>>> do you have power into the coil? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> On 07-Jul-2016, at 14:58, Tyler Hardison <tyler@SERAPH-NET.NET> > >> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Nope, saw that message afterwards. I'll bow out. I've never seen > >> that. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 10:58 AM, Fuzzy :philippe < > >> fuzzmeister@gmail.com> > >>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> There seems to be a lack of spark from the center ignition wire. > >> Does > >>>>>> that > >>>>>>>> connect with the issue you had? > >>>>>>>> On Jul 7, 2016 10:55 AM, "Tyler Hardison" <tyler@seraph-net.net> > >> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Phillippe, > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I too had this issue. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> The problem is likely vapor lock caused by clogged fuel filter or > >>>>>>>>> possibly the pressure regulator. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Look under the van on the passenger side for the fuel filter(s). > >> If you > >>>>>>>>> have two, you can eliminate the front square filter. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> --t > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 10:48 AM, Fuzzy :philippe < > >>>>>> fuzzmeister@gmail.com> > >>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I don't post here often but I'm hoping you guys can help. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I have an '87 2.1L Vanagon GL > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I drive it, and suddenly the engine stops and won't restart for > >> about > >>>>>>>>>> 10min. Then it starts and runs for a few minutes and dies again. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Thoughts? I'm on the road with basic tools and multimeter, but I > >>>>>> haven't > >>>>>>>>>> done this sort of diagnostic before. I could use a short talk on > >> the > >>>>>>>>>> phone > >>>>>>>>>> with anyone who can help. I also have the servicing manual but > >> these > >>>>>>>>>> books > >>>>>>>>>> assume basic knowledge of such engines, which I don't. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> A quick text to 415-505-0786 would be awesome! > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Thanks so much, > >>>>>>>>>> Philippe > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>> > >> >


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