Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 01:11:09 +0000
Reply-To: den jolliffe <sondancer77@YAHOO.COM>
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From: den jolliffe <sondancer77@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: Starter related question.
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Funny thing is..my buddy had a starter failure middle of winter a few years back on his 88 syncro...nobody said I had to remove the axle, and altho it was tight, I did manage to change it on my back, in 6" of snow in full winter apparel...we did get it up on cement blocks on the passenger side, but it did get changed...LOL
On Thursday, July 14, 2016 8:54 PM, OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@COMCAST.NET> wrote:
If It Is a 2WD there is no reason to remove anything other than the Cables & SecuringBolts ~
Access is QuiteGood from DownUnder, Preferably with the BackEnd Up On Ramps ~
Battery Should, OfCourse, be disconnected 1st ~
ORR ~ DeanB
On 14 Jul , 2016, at 3:46 PM, C. Abney wrote:
> Things you have to remove to pull the starter: the battery
> ground(:-*), and (probably) the throttle body. At least, doing that
> makes removing that long hex head screw easy.
>
> I don't think you have to remove the axle. I can't say for sure
> though, because when I removed the starter on my vanagon I had already
> removed the axles.
>
> On 7/13/16, Roy Nicholl <RNicholl@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:
>> All,
>>
>> Tuesday morning we had a “no crank” situation in the Hyena (’88 2.1 WBX) and
>> were “late for swimming lessons” as I shifted the kid pod from the Westy
>> back to "Mom’s car”.
>>
>> My multimeter and kit is at another location - I’ll fetch it on Friday - but
>> today at lunch I had 15-minutes so I pulled the plug off the ignition switch
>> and stuck a strand of 14/2 Nomax between 12V and 50. I head what sounded
>> like the solenoid “slam” into place, but only the once. I then went aft
>> with my stand of 14/2 and bridged #50 at the solenoid … nothing.
>>
>> Batter seems fine … according to the simple meter on the charger … will
>> measure this again with multimeter.
>>
>> So it is looking like the {original} starter has packed it in … I’ll go out
>> on Saturday morning with the meter just to make certain I’m getting all the
>> required voltage at all the required places.
>>
>> While I was under there, I noted there is nothing attached to #16 on the
>> solenoid … isn’t there suppose to be a connection to the ignition system
>> (coil) here?
>>
>> Let’s assume I need to replace the starter.
>> 1) Do I really need to disconnect the right axle to do this {as I was told
>> over the phone today}? It looks like I should be able to get at all the
>> bolts (after a little cleaning) … not as easy as the ’66, but should be
>> possible.
>> 2) Is there an improvement that can be made over the OEM starter? {i.e.
>> something like a starter from a mk2 jetta i4 that is cheaper to procure}
>> 3) Is a rebuilt starter worth the cost savings (50%)?
>> 4) Was there any significant change in the starter over the years? The
>> Hyena is a 1988, but I know of a possible ’84 donor nearby.
>>
>> I also noted a couple more ground straps that need cleaning/attention
>> (including the one between the solenoid and starter) … I’ll take care of
>> these before ordering a new starter. I’ve never had a starter fail
>> completely w/o any prior warning before, so I’m not 100% convinced I do not
>> have another notoriously bad ground/earth.
>>
>> I may as well use this as an opportunity to remove all that current from the
>> ignition switch and install some additional relays.
>>
>> Roy
>>
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