Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 17:32:19 -0700
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From: "Fuzzy :philippe" <fuzzmeister@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: HELP: Engine stopped
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So far I've tested everything. All connections are good, coil is good,
relays are good. The only thing missing is the ECU pin 3 activating the
fuel relay. And the ECU is getting power from the other relay.
So everything is pointing to the ECU.
On Jul 11, 2016 5:01 PM, "Fuzzy :philippe" <fuzzmeister@gmail.com> wrote:
> You're all awesome. I'm going to play with all these suggestions tonight!
>
> A bientot et avec amour,
>
> :Philippe
>
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>
> “Come to the edge.' 'We can't. We're afraid.'
> 'Come to the edge.' 'We can't. We will fall!'
> 'Come to the edge.' And they came. And he pushed them. And they flew."
> Guillaume Apollinaire (1880 - 1918)
>
> “A master in the art of living draws no sharp distinction between
> their work and their play; their labor and their leisure; their mind
> and their body; their education and their recreation. They hardly know
> which is which. They simply pursue their vision of excellence through
> whatever they are doing, and leave others to determine whether they
> are working or playing. To themselves, they always appear to be doing
> both.” -L.P. Jacks
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 5:41 AM, Mark Drillock <modrillock@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > It is important to go all the way to the battery if you want to be sure
> to
> > bypass as many of the common failure points in the Vanagon power wiring
> > paths as the tool is meant to bypass. The path segment between the
> starter
> > and the alternator is the most failure prone in my experience. List
> member
> > Jay Brown sells an upgraded replacement for this section and I have
> > installed several of them. It is well made and worth doing, especially if
> > you have a second battery installed.
> >
> > Since Philippe is getting the power relay clicking on with the key we can
> > tell his ignition switch is working and so his problem would likely be in
> > the other path, the red one, assuming a wiring cause.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 5:03 AM, Larry Alofs <lalofs@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 7:56 AM, Larry Alofs <lalofs@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hi,
> >> > Sorry about the delay. I went to bed last nite.
> >> > Try this link:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=349429&highlight=crazyvwvanman
> >> >
> >> > Let me know if it doesn't work. Or search on the vanagon forum on the
> >> > Samba for "crazyvwvanman" and then look for his post called "dead van
> >> > diagnostic tools...."
> >> >
> >> > The version I made just hooks to the big +12v terminal on the
> >> alternator
> >> > instead of going all the way to the battery.
> >> >
> >> > Good luck,
> >> > Larry A.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 10:16 PM, Fuzzy :philippe <
> fuzzmeister@gmail.com
> >> >
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I'm not familiar with the wire tool. Can you share more info?
> >> >>
> >> >> The switch seems to work in the sense that I hear at least one relay
> >> >> coming on when I turn the ignition to the on position (regardless of
> >> >> whether the pump is going on). I imagine this is a relay to tell the
> gas
> >> >> pump to come on for a second, but I could be wrong.
> >> >> I read back thru this thread, but I'm not sure if you have considered
> >> the
> >> >> ignition switch. Do you have one to try swapping?
> >> >>
> >> >> Are you familiar with Mark Drillock's emergency bypass jumper wire
> tool?
> >> >>
> >> >> Larry A.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 9:17 PM, Fuzzy :philippe <
> fuzzmeister@gmail.com
> >> >
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> Update:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Before: Engine would die, but after a while would be possible to
> start
> >> it
> >> >>> again, then engine would die a few minutes later. Installed a new
> coil,
> >> >>> engine still dies like before (anyone needs a bran new Bosch coil?)
> >> >>> Suggestion was that it might be a bad hall sensor or coil.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Now: Last time the engine died, when I turned the ignition key to
> the
> >> on
> >> >>> position, the fuel pump didn't engage for the 1 initial second. I
> left
> >> >>> the
> >> >>> ignition to the on position, and after a few minutes I heard the
> pump
> >> go
> >> >>> on. I was then able to start the engine. It died again a few minutes
> >> >>> later.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> So my new guess was that there is an issue with the pump and the
> engine
> >> >>> died from no gas.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I waited the pump would not come on with the ignition on the on
> >> >>> position. I
> >> >>> searched a bit and it was recommended to short the pin 87 and 30 in
> the
> >> >>> right side relay of the black box above the coil. I did that and
> was
> >> >>> able
> >> >>> to get home.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Tried again and the gas pump now turns on when I turn the ignition
> to
> >> the
> >> >>> on position. Gawd I hate intermittent issues.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Any suggestions on what how to troubleshoot this?
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >>
>
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