Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 18:54:55 -0600
Reply-To: OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@COMCAST.NET>
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From: OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@COMCAST.NET>
Subject: Re: Starter related question.
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If It Is a 2WD there is no reason to remove anything other than the Cables & SecuringBolts ~
Access is QuiteGood from DownUnder, Preferably with the BackEnd Up On Ramps ~
Battery Should, OfCourse, be disconnected 1st ~
ORR ~ DeanB
On 14 Jul , 2016, at 3:46 PM, C. Abney wrote:
> Things you have to remove to pull the starter: the battery
> ground(:-*), and (probably) the throttle body. At least, doing that
> makes removing that long hex head screw easy.
>
> I don't think you have to remove the axle. I can't say for sure
> though, because when I removed the starter on my vanagon I had already
> removed the axles.
>
> On 7/13/16, Roy Nicholl <RNicholl@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:
>> All,
>>
>> Tuesday morning we had a “no crank” situation in the Hyena (’88 2.1 WBX) and
>> were “late for swimming lessons” as I shifted the kid pod from the Westy
>> back to "Mom’s car”.
>>
>> My multimeter and kit is at another location - I’ll fetch it on Friday - but
>> today at lunch I had 15-minutes so I pulled the plug off the ignition switch
>> and stuck a strand of 14/2 Nomax between 12V and 50. I head what sounded
>> like the solenoid “slam” into place, but only the once. I then went aft
>> with my stand of 14/2 and bridged #50 at the solenoid … nothing.
>>
>> Batter seems fine … according to the simple meter on the charger … will
>> measure this again with multimeter.
>>
>> So it is looking like the {original} starter has packed it in … I’ll go out
>> on Saturday morning with the meter just to make certain I’m getting all the
>> required voltage at all the required places.
>>
>> While I was under there, I noted there is nothing attached to #16 on the
>> solenoid … isn’t there suppose to be a connection to the ignition system
>> (coil) here?
>>
>> Let’s assume I need to replace the starter.
>> 1) Do I really need to disconnect the right axle to do this {as I was told
>> over the phone today}? It looks like I should be able to get at all the
>> bolts (after a little cleaning) … not as easy as the ’66, but should be
>> possible.
>> 2) Is there an improvement that can be made over the OEM starter? {i.e.
>> something like a starter from a mk2 jetta i4 that is cheaper to procure}
>> 3) Is a rebuilt starter worth the cost savings (50%)?
>> 4) Was there any significant change in the starter over the years? The
>> Hyena is a 1988, but I know of a possible ’84 donor nearby.
>>
>> I also noted a couple more ground straps that need cleaning/attention
>> (including the one between the solenoid and starter) … I’ll take care of
>> these before ordering a new starter. I’ve never had a starter fail
>> completely w/o any prior warning before, so I’m not 100% convinced I do not
>> have another notoriously bad ground/earth.
>>
>> I may as well use this as an opportunity to remove all that current from the
>> ignition switch and install some additional relays.
>>
>> Roy
>>
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