Date:         Mon, 11 Jul 2016 08:03:31 -0400
Reply-To:     Larry Alofs <lalofs@GMAIL.COM>
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From:         Larry Alofs <lalofs@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: HELP: Engine stopped
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On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 7:56 AM, Larry Alofs <lalofs@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> Sorry about the delay.  I went to bed last nite.
> Try this link:
>
>
> http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=349429&highlight=crazyvwvanman
>
> Let me know if it doesn't work.  Or search on the vanagon forum on the
> Samba for "crazyvwvanman"  and then look for his post called "dead van
> diagnostic tools...."
>
>   The version I made just hooks to the big +12v terminal on the alternator
> instead of going all the way to the battery.
>
> Good luck,
> Larry A.
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 10:16 PM, Fuzzy :philippe <fuzzmeister@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I'm not familiar with the wire tool. Can you share more info?
>>
>> The switch seems to work in the sense that I hear at least one relay
>> coming on when I turn the ignition to the on position (regardless of
>> whether the pump is going on). I imagine this is a relay to tell the gas
>> pump to come on for a second, but I could be wrong.
>> I read back thru this thread, but I'm not sure if you have considered the
>> ignition switch.  Do you have one to try swapping?
>>
>> Are you familiar with Mark Drillock's emergency bypass jumper wire tool?
>>
>> Larry A.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 9:17 PM, Fuzzy :philippe <fuzzmeister@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Update:
>>>
>>> Before: Engine would die, but after a while would be possible to start it
>>> again, then engine would die a few minutes later. Installed a new coil,
>>> engine still dies like before (anyone needs a bran new Bosch coil?)
>>> Suggestion was that it might be a bad hall sensor or coil.
>>>
>>> Now: Last time the engine died, when I turned the ignition key to the on
>>> position, the fuel pump didn't engage for the 1 initial second. I left
>>> the
>>> ignition to the on position, and after a few minutes I heard the pump go
>>> on. I was then able to start the engine. It died again a few minutes
>>> later.
>>>
>>> So my new guess was that there is an issue with the pump and the engine
>>> died from no gas.
>>>
>>> I waited the pump would not come on with the ignition on the on
>>> position. I
>>> searched a bit and it was recommended to short the pin 87 and 30 in the
>>> right side relay of the black box above the coil.  I did that and was
>>> able
>>> to get home.
>>>
>>> Tried again and the gas pump now turns on when I turn the ignition to the
>>> on position. Gawd I hate intermittent issues.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions on what how to troubleshoot this?
>>>
>>>
>>>