Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 14:46:07 -0700
Reply-To: "C. Abney" <tsudonimh@GMAIL.COM>
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From: "C. Abney" <tsudonimh@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Starter related question.
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Things you have to remove to pull the starter: the battery
ground(:-*), and (probably) the throttle body. At least, doing that
makes removing that long hex head screw easy.
I don't think you have to remove the axle. I can't say for sure
though, because when I removed the starter on my vanagon I had already
removed the axles.
On 7/13/16, Roy Nicholl <RNicholl@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:
> All,
>
> Tuesday morning we had a “no crank” situation in the Hyena (’88 2.1 WBX) and
> were “late for swimming lessons” as I shifted the kid pod from the Westy
> back to "Mom’s car”.
>
> My multimeter and kit is at another location - I’ll fetch it on Friday - but
> today at lunch I had 15-minutes so I pulled the plug off the ignition switch
> and stuck a strand of 14/2 Nomax between 12V and 50. I head what sounded
> like the solenoid “slam” into place, but only the once. I then went aft
> with my stand of 14/2 and bridged #50 at the solenoid … nothing.
>
> Batter seems fine … according to the simple meter on the charger … will
> measure this again with multimeter.
>
> So it is looking like the {original} starter has packed it in … I’ll go out
> on Saturday morning with the meter just to make certain I’m getting all the
> required voltage at all the required places.
>
> While I was under there, I noted there is nothing attached to #16 on the
> solenoid … isn’t there suppose to be a connection to the ignition system
> (coil) here?
>
> Let’s assume I need to replace the starter.
> 1) Do I really need to disconnect the right axle to do this {as I was told
> over the phone today}? It looks like I should be able to get at all the
> bolts (after a little cleaning) … not as easy as the ’66, but should be
> possible.
> 2) Is there an improvement that can be made over the OEM starter? {i.e.
> something like a starter from a mk2 jetta i4 that is cheaper to procure}
> 3) Is a rebuilt starter worth the cost savings (50%)?
> 4) Was there any significant change in the starter over the years? The
> Hyena is a 1988, but I know of a possible ’84 donor nearby.
>
> I also noted a couple more ground straps that need cleaning/attention
> (including the one between the solenoid and starter) … I’ll take care of
> these before ordering a new starter. I’ve never had a starter fail
> completely w/o any prior warning before, so I’m not 100% convinced I do not
> have another notoriously bad ground/earth.
>
> I may as well use this as an opportunity to remove all that current from the
> ignition switch and install some additional relays.
>
> Roy
>
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