Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 22:01:44 -0700
Reply-To: Don Hanson <dhanson928@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Don Hanson <dhanson928@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Starter related question.
In-Reply-To: <212E9CEC-F0D0-41FC-B1DF-750C987C4D38@COMCAST.NET>
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Try replacing the banjo fuel lines on a Ford powerstroke..... I gave that
task about a week, laying on my stomach with my legs kicking out of the
hood and I still couldn't do it.... They sell an $800 kit to avoid the
whole weird stock set up that I gave up on fixing and did some creative
bypassing...it is Friday now...
On Jul 14, 2016 8:29 PM, "OlRivrRat" <OlRivrRat@comcast.net> wrote:
> That's Good to Know (although I'm not clear on why it's funny) ~
> I've actually not had the "privilege" of
>
> having to change a starter on a Syncro & Hope I never do as I have heard
> it's NotFun ~
>
>
> On 14 Jul , 2016, at 7:11 PM, den jolliffe wrote:
>
> > Funny thing is..my buddy had a starter failure middle of winter a few
> years back on his 88 syncro...nobody said I had to remove the axle, and
> altho it was tight, I did manage to change it on my back, in 6" of snow in
> full winter apparel...we did get it up on cement blocks on the passenger
> side, but it did get changed...LOL
> >
> >
> > On Thursday, July 14, 2016 8:54 PM, OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@COMCAST.NET>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > If It Is a 2WD there is no reason to remove anything other than
> the Cables & SecuringBolts ~
> >
> > Access is QuiteGood from DownUnder, Preferably with the BackEnd Up On
> Ramps ~
> >
> > Battery Should, OfCourse, be disconnected 1st ~
> >
> > ORR ~ DeanB
> >
> >
> > On 14 Jul , 2016, at 3:46 PM, C. Abney wrote:
> >
> > > Things you have to remove to pull the starter: the battery
> > > ground(:-*), and (probably) the throttle body. At least, doing that
> > > makes removing that long hex head screw easy.
> > >
> > > I don't think you have to remove the axle. I can't say for sure
> > > though, because when I removed the starter on my vanagon I had already
> > > removed the axles.
> > >
> > > On 7/13/16, Roy Nicholl <RNicholl@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:
> > >> All,
> > >>
> > >> Tuesday morning we had a “no crank” situation in the Hyena (’88 2.1
> WBX) and
> > >> were “late for swimming lessons” as I shifted the kid pod from the
> Westy
> > >> back to "Mom’s car”.
> > >>
> > >> My multimeter and kit is at another location - I’ll fetch it on
> Friday - but
> > >> today at lunch I had 15-minutes so I pulled the plug off the ignition
> switch
> > >> and stuck a strand of 14/2 Nomax between 12V and 50. I head what
> sounded
> > >> like the solenoid “slam” into place, but only the once. I then went
> aft
> > >> with my stand of 14/2 and bridged #50 at the solenoid … nothing.
> > >>
> > >> Batter seems fine … according to the simple meter on the charger …
> will
> > >> measure this again with multimeter.
> > >>
> > >> So it is looking like the {original} starter has packed it in … I’ll
> go out
> > >> on Saturday morning with the meter just to make certain I’m getting
> all the
> > >> required voltage at all the required places.
> > >>
> > >> While I was under there, I noted there is nothing attached to #16 on
> the
> > >> solenoid … isn’t there suppose to be a connection to the ignition
> system
> > >> (coil) here?
> > >>
> > >> Let’s assume I need to replace the starter.
> > >> 1) Do I really need to disconnect the right axle to do this {as I was
> told
> > >> over the phone today}? It looks like I should be able to get at all
> the
> > >> bolts (after a little cleaning) … not as easy as the ’66, but should
> be
> > >> possible.
> > >> 2) Is there an improvement that can be made over the OEM starter?
> {i.e.
> > >> something like a starter from a mk2 jetta i4 that is cheaper to
> procure}
> > >> 3) Is a rebuilt starter worth the cost savings (50%)?
> > >> 4) Was there any significant change in the starter over the years?
> The
> > >> Hyena is a 1988, but I know of a possible ’84 donor nearby.
> > >>
> > >> I also noted a couple more ground straps that need cleaning/attention
> > >> (including the one between the solenoid and starter) … I’ll take care
> of
> > >> these before ordering a new starter. I’ve never had a starter fail
> > >> completely w/o any prior warning before, so I’m not 100% convinced I
> do not
> > >> have another notoriously bad ground/earth.
> > >>
> > >> I may as well use this as an opportunity to remove all that current
> from the
> > >> ignition switch and install some additional relays.
> > >>
> > >> Roy
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > There's no .sig like the present
> >
> >
>
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